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When have morally righteous, factually incorrect socialists ever gone wrong? At least she means well. What's the worst that can happen?
What was she factually incorrect about? Did she say 10 million Americans don't have health insurance when it's actually 7 million, so her belief that we need universal coverage is now invalid.
Trump implied that he thought Fredrick Douglas was still alive. It was good for a joke, but ultimately meaningless in the debate about whether or not his policies are driven by racism.
We need to build our government on facts, but if all of our points are invalid because of minor errors, then we might as well burn the whole thing down.
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OK, so for the first statement: “Unemployment is low because everyone has two jobs. Unemployment is low because people are working 60, 70, 80 hours a week and can barely feed their family.”
They found: "The July data shows most of these people juggling two jobs — 58 percent — have a primary job and a part-time job. Only 6 percent have two full-time jobs, which calls into question her claim that people are working “60, 70, 80 hours a week.” Indeed, the average hours worked per week for private employees has remained steady at just under 35 hours for years."
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So, she said "everyone," but you're clearly not expected to think she's claiming that 100% of people have 2 jobs. Turns out, 58% do.
She didn't say how many people work 60-80 hours, but since 35 is the average, it's not inconceivable that some work a lot.
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So, again ... details that don't invalidate her point that low unemployment does not mean that there aren't Americans suffering. She speaks from the hip and uses superlatives. She could vet every answer she gives and fix this problem, but then she'd just be Pelosi, and we'd all think she's just a politician like everyone else.
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Get this shit out of the Election 2020 thread. Not fucking kidding. She is not running for president. There is a tangential connection give that she is a member of Congress, but it is a pollutant in this thread and it must be established early in this election season hell hole that AOC obsession goes in the Congress thread or in a new thread created just about her. Fuck this assinine US Weekly drivel. GET OUT OF THIS THREAD.
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post / move all Sandy from the Bronx related crap here
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Get this shit out of the Election 2020 thread. Not fucking kidding. She is not running for president. There is a tangential connection give that she is a member of Congress, but it is a pollutant in this thread and it must be established early in this election season hell hole that AOC obsession goes in the Congress thread or in a new thread created just about her. Fuck this assinine US Weekly drivel. GET OUT OF THIS THREAD.
That’s because the Sanders plan assumes that providers — doctors, hospitals, and the like — would face an immediate cut of roughly 40 percent for the treatment of patients now covered by private insurance.
WTF is going on with Glenn Kessler?? He had to edit this misrepresentation out of three prior fact checks. I understand he doesn’t actually have any subject matter expertise, but don’t you eventually start to remember that you keep having to correct it?
Actually, tbh, I can’t remember if it was 3 fact check articles, or two plus a blog post.
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Strat wrote:
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Get this shit out of the Election 2020 thread. Not fucking kidding. She is not running for president. There is a tangential connection give that she is a member of Congress, but it is a pollutant in this thread and it must be established early in this election season hell hole that AOC obsession goes in the Congress thread or in a new thread created just about her. Fuck this assinine US Weekly drivel. GET OUT OF THIS THREAD.
just calm down numbersup
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BLLLAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!
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