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Post subject: Re: What crazy shit/conspiracy do you believe?
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 2:03 am
The Master
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 am Posts: 28154
elliseamos wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
I personally think it would be important to know if the US government was aiding and abetting Epstein in the sex trafficking of young women, but you do you.
Post subject: Re: What crazy shit/conspiracy do you believe?
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 2:03 am
The Master
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 am Posts: 28154
elliseamos wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
I personally think it would be important to know if the US government was aiding and abetting Epstein in the sex trafficking of young women, but you do you.
Post subject: Re: What crazy shit/conspiracy do you believe?
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 11:45 am
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14258
Oh look, team "It was a racoon dog" has assembled.
I'll take this challenge.
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Post subject: Re: What crazy shit/conspiracy do you believe?
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 11:55 am
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm Posts: 39820 Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
elliseamos wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
I personally think it would be important to know if the US government was aiding and abetting Epstein in the sex trafficking of young women, but you do you.
In 1980s, Epstein worked at Bear Sterns and was mentored by Douglas Leese (a British arms dealer). Leese introduced Epstein to Robert Maxwell. Steven Hoffenberg, who was prosecuted for a massive Ponzi scheme he and Epstein ran, asserted that Epstein bragged he helped R. Maxwell solve his debt issues... which turned out to be a pension raid that was discovered after R Maxwell died under suspicious circumstances on his private yacht. Epstein had also told Hoffenberg that via R. Maxwell and Leese he was involved in something that Hoffenberg described as “national security issues” (https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/cu ... 97708/amp/)
One of Epstein's clients was the Saudi Arabian businessman Adnan Khashoggi, who was the middleman in transferring American weapons from Israel to Iran, as part of the Iran–Contra affair in the 1980s.
In 1992, the State Department's Office of Foreign Missions (the group that supports foreign diplomats) leased a town-home in NYC they had seized from the Iranian government to Epstein. (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ro ... department)
Alex Acosta, the Trump admin official who was a prosecutor in Miami in 2007 when Epstein was changed with trafficking and somehow got a sweetheart deal, told Trump officials during his screening interviews that Epstein "belonged to intelligence," and that the issue was above his "pay grade" (https://www.newsweek.com/alex-acosta-ep ... or-1448568)
When Epstein's Manhattan mansion was raided by the FBI in 2019, they found an expired passport under a different name from a “foreign country” (later disclosed as Austria) that claimed he lived in Saudi Arabia (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/15/nyre ... -news.html)
... more to come later... but it's worth asking if you truly believe that former presidents, active government officials, and social elites hanging out and traveling internationally with a guy who had been charged with child sex trafficking, hundreds of millions in fraud, and was connected to villains all over the world did somehow not draw the attention of the darker sides of the government. Do you real believe they somehow missed all the signs? Or is it possible something else was happening...
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Post subject: Re: What crazy shit/conspiracy do you believe?
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 8:08 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Thu January 10, 2013 2:19 am Posts: 8898 Location: SOUTH PORTLAND
Quote:
Do you real believe they somehow missed all the signs? Or is it possible something else was happening...
I don't beleive they missed anything, but I do believe that some connected people are above the law.
Our government "aids and abets" far worse people so why is this a conspiracy? It's just how the world is. That doesn't mean I like it, but it also doesn't mean I beleive some big scheme. It's money & power. A few have both, some have one or the other, and many many more have neither.
Why must it be a choice between "He was a spy and the government went along with it because of x, y, z..." vs. "He was a well connected creep with lots of creep friends in positions of power to get him (and themselves) out of trouble?"
Post subject: Re: What crazy shit/conspiracy do you believe?
Posted: Tue May 02, 2023 10:22 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Thu January 10, 2013 2:19 am Posts: 8898 Location: SOUTH PORTLAND
Especially with his sperm farm in New Mexico.
That's pretty "on the nose" when it comes to common ground.
My questions were based on the use of "pretending" and "random." Most people are likely niave, but us cultured RMers are well aware of what kept this guy protected for so long... and even today, amirite?
Post subject: Re: What crazy shit/conspiracy do you believe?
Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 11:41 am
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm Posts: 39820 Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
Let's talk about rivers. Does anyone really think they are kept filled and flowing by rain? Are you a child? What a fairy tale! Do you know how much water the Columbia River pumps out every minute? No way rain and snow could keep it filled. Not even close. What's really responsible for our rivers?
Post subject: Re: What crazy shit/conspiracy do you believe?
Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 5:33 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14258
BurtReynolds wrote:
Let's talk about rivers. Does anyone really think they are kept filled and flowing by rain? Are you a child? What a fairy tale! Do you know how much water the Columbia River pumps out every minute? No way rain and snow could keep it filled. Not even close. What's really responsible for our rivers?
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Post subject: Re: What crazy shit/conspiracy do you believe?
Posted: Wed May 17, 2023 11:15 pm
Guys, I am not a moderator! I swear to God! Why does everyone think I'm a moderator?
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 2:48 pm Posts: 47338
BurtReynolds wrote:
Let's talk about rivers. Does anyone really think they are kept filled and flowing by rain? Are you a child? What a fairy tale! Do you know how much water the Columbia River pumps out every minute? No way rain and snow could keep it filled. Not even close. What's really responsible for our rivers?
Do you have a theory?
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