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meatwad wrote:Within the last year I took a hard look at the way I was following Trump's presidency and politics in general. I was so tuned in to the CNN outrage machine every night. Every day was about "what's going on with Mueller" and "how are we gonna stop this guy." It was taking over. And then one day I realized that I was becoming the mirror image of the people on the right who wasted eight years talking about how "Obama's a Muslim" and "he's coming to take our guns" and all that bullshit. I used to look at those people and say, "It's not that bad, relax." But they can't relax. It's been programmed into them, and it's likely aided by a bit of OCD and/or paranoia. When I had this realization, it was easy for me to say, "You know what? I don't need to focus on this every day. Presidents come and go, some are shitty, some are good, most are forgettable. Despite this one being by far the shittiest, all I can do is wait four years and cast a vote against him once again." And sure, that's not all I could do...I could be like trag and get involved and canvass and all that very valuable stuff. But right now I just don't have the time to commit to that level of it. So I vote, because at the end of the day, that's all I can do.
Sun November 04, 2018 8:08 pm
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Sun November 04, 2018 9:11 pm
Orpheus wrote:meatwad wrote:Within the last year I took a hard look at the way I was following Trump's presidency and politics in general. I was so tuned in to the CNN outrage machine every night. Every day was about "what's going on with Mueller" and "how are we gonna stop this guy." It was taking over. And then one day I realized that I was becoming the mirror image of the people on the right who wasted eight years talking about how "Obama's a Muslim" and "he's coming to take our guns" and all that bullshit. I used to look at those people and say, "It's not that bad, relax." But they can't relax. It's been programmed into them, and it's likely aided by a bit of OCD and/or paranoia. When I had this realization, it was easy for me to say, "You know what? I don't need to focus on this every day. Presidents come and go, some are shitty, some are good, most are forgettable. Despite this one being by far the shittiest, all I can do is wait four years and cast a vote against him once again." And sure, that's not all I could do...I could be like trag and get involved and canvass and all that very valuable stuff. But right now I just don't have the time to commit to that level of it. So I vote, because at the end of the day, that's all I can do.
Except unlike the Obama critics, your concerns are rooted in actual reality. That's the difference!
Sun November 04, 2018 10:27 pm
Sun November 04, 2018 10:50 pm
BurtReynolds wrote:meatwad wrote:Orpheus wrote:meatwad wrote:Within the last year I took a hard look at the way I was following Trump's presidency and politics in general. I was so tuned in to the CNN outrage machine every night. Every day was about "what's going on with Mueller" and "how are we gonna stop this guy." It was taking over. And then one day I realized that I was becoming the mirror image of the people on the right who wasted eight years talking about how "Obama's a Muslim" and "he's coming to take our guns" and all that bullshit. I used to look at those people and say, "It's not that bad, relax." But they can't relax. It's been programmed into them, and it's likely aided by a bit of OCD and/or paranoia. When I had this realization, it was easy for me to say, "You know what? I don't need to focus on this every day. Presidents come and go, some are shitty, some are good, most are forgettable. Despite this one being by far the shittiest, all I can do is wait four years and cast a vote against him once again." And sure, that's not all I could do...I could be like trag and get involved and canvass and all that very valuable stuff. But right now I just don't have the time to commit to that level of it. So I vote, because at the end of the day, that's all I can do.
Except unlike the Obama critics, your concerns are rooted in actual reality. That's the difference!
That's a fair point. But let's not sit here and pretend that there aren't at least elements on the left who are as equally paranoid about Trump, particularly when it comes to Russia.
that sounds like Russian bot talk.
Sun November 04, 2018 10:56 pm
Mon November 05, 2018 11:38 am
tragabigzanda wrote:hey if you're voting and engaging in constructive debate, you're already part of the solution
Mon November 05, 2018 4:09 pm
I've read some good literature that suggests that the media needs to start abiding by Paul Anka's Guarantee. Individual people should as well, but media outlets that should know better have more power. Trump is an attention whore, and that's been well established since the 1980s. Every time Shit Trump Says gets covered, it sucks oxygen out of the room for meat and potatoes issues that shouldn't go by the wayside. And that's why I feel so exhausted by this election cycle, because I would much rather discuss those issues.meatwad wrote:But I do believe that a lot of logical people have embraced this rabid anti-Trumpism and in doing so are giving Trump exactly what he wants. He's the master of distraction, and when he's good enough at it to get people on the same side fighting each other, he's guaranteed to get his way.
Mon November 05, 2018 4:10 pm
Green Habit wrote:I've read some good literature that suggests that the media needs to start abiding by Paul Anka's Guarantee. Individual people should as well, but media outlets that should know better have more power. Trump is an attention whore, and that's been well established since the 1980s. Every time Shit Trump Says gets covered, it sucks oxygen out of the room for meat and potatoes issues that shouldn't go by the wayside. And that's why I feel so exhausted by this election cycle, because I would much rather discuss those issues.meatwad wrote:But I do believe that a lot of logical people have embraced this rabid anti-Trumpism and in doing so are giving Trump exactly what he wants. He's the master of distraction, and when he's good enough at it to get people on the same side fighting each other, he's guaranteed to get his way.
Mon November 05, 2018 5:39 pm
Green Habit wrote:I've read some good literature that suggests that the media needs to start abiding by Paul Anka's Guarantee. Individual people should as well, but media outlets that should know better have more power. Trump is an attention whore, and that's been well established since the 1980s. Every time Shit Trump Says gets covered, it sucks oxygen out of the room for meat and potatoes issues that shouldn't go by the wayside. And that's why I feel so exhausted by this election cycle, because I would much rather discuss those issues.meatwad wrote:But I do believe that a lot of logical people have embraced this rabid anti-Trumpism and in doing so are giving Trump exactly what he wants. He's the master of distraction, and when he's good enough at it to get people on the same side fighting each other, he's guaranteed to get his way.
Mon November 05, 2018 5:43 pm
Sucks for them, guess they'll have to take one for the team by corralling the dog punting Trump ads in that state.cutuphalfdead wrote:But that guarantee is void in Tennessee.Green Habit wrote:I've read some good literature that suggests that the media needs to start abiding by Paul Anka's Guarantee. Individual people should as well, but media outlets that should know better have more power. Trump is an attention whore, and that's been well established since the 1980s. Every time Shit Trump Says gets covered, it sucks oxygen out of the room for meat and potatoes issues that shouldn't go by the wayside. And that's why I feel so exhausted by this election cycle, because I would much rather discuss those issues.meatwad wrote:But I do believe that a lot of logical people have embraced this rabid anti-Trumpism and in doing so are giving Trump exactly what he wants. He's the master of distraction, and when he's good enough at it to get people on the same side fighting each other, he's guaranteed to get his way.
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