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 Post subject: Higher Education Financing
PostPosted: Mon June 24, 2019 10:24 am 
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Also, props to Bernie and the FSA for stealing the easiest path to greening the economy and screwing over responsible borrowers and people who worked through school vs partying. Great move.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
PostPosted: Mon June 24, 2019 2:37 pm 
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Also, props to Bernie and the FSA for stealing the easiest path to greening the economy and screwing over responsible borrowers and people who worked through school vs partying. Great move.


Can you unpack that one for us?


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Bi_3 wrote:
Also, props to Bernie and the FSA for stealing the easiest path to greening the economy and screwing over responsible borrowers and people who worked through school vs partying. Great move.


Can you unpack that one for us?


Bernie proposed the elimination of existing student debt via a transaction tax on Wall Street, punishing responsible borrowers and those who offset loan needs via employment and savings. The transaction tax, an idea I support, will be highly damaging to wall street and is not a lever we can keep pulling like income taxes (to replace failed policies like carbon taxes), so it must used only in a situation of the upmost need for all of society. It's wasted here and not as the funding for migrating energy sources and emissions reductions. The right move is to allow student loans to be discharged in bankruptcy like any other debt, not absolve people who didnt bothered to comprehend what "loan" means (i.e. the Free Shit Army).

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Can we make Bi_3's eye twitch?



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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
PostPosted: Mon June 24, 2019 5:07 pm 
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bune wrote:
Can we make Bi_3's eye twitch?




The next time you see a working class kid who decided against college because their family couldn't afford it or a service member who went on the GI bill and ended up serving in Iraq... just go ahead and spit on them. Same thing.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Bi_3 wrote:
bune wrote:
Can we make Bi_3's eye twitch?




The next time you see a working class kid who decided against college because their family couldn't afford it or a service member who went on the GI bill and ended up serving in Iraq... just go ahead and spit on them. Same thing.


Affluenza with the government as daddy.


Hmm I do think we should spit on the troops so this really sounds like a win-win.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Bi_3 wrote:
bune wrote:
Can we make Bi_3's eye twitch?




The next time you see a working class kid who decided against college because their family couldn't afford it or a service member who went on the GI bill and ended up serving in Iraq... just go ahead and spit on them. Same thing.


Affluenza with the government as daddy.


I'm not going to pretend I'm well versed on the subject of student loans, but what if they were converted to low or no interest loans instead of being eliminated altogether? Aren't you also still on the hook for them if you file for bankruptcy? Seems like horseshit if that's right.

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 Post subject: Re: Higher Education Financing
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I'm splitting this discussion off because it's a big and messy topic of its own, and I might have some larger thoughts about this later.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Bi_3 wrote:
bune wrote:
Can we make Bi_3's eye twitch?




The next time you see a working class kid who decided against college because their family couldn't afford it or a service member who went on the GI bill and ended up serving in Iraq... just go ahead and spit on them. Same thing.


Affluenza with the government as daddy.

You can’t honestly be this much of a myopic moron can you?

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 Post subject: Re: Higher Education Financing
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I fully appreciate Bi_3’s stance on this. Bernie’s plan is notably different from Warren’s, and far more damaging in the long run, I think. His affluenza comment is totally fair towards Bernie (but not Warren, I don’t believe).


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 Post subject: Re: Higher Education Financing
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 Post subject: Re: Higher Education Financing
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