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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
PostPosted: Mon April 08, 2013 10:10 pm 
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In my opinion (not that you asked) I think she was a vile human being and her death doesn't change that. I'm not sure why we have to be respectful of someone who was so disrespectful of others while she was alive. I'll not celebrate anyone dying though.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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ITT unhinged liberals do more for conservatism than margaret thatcher ever could


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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ITT unhinged liberals do more for conservatism than margaret thatcher ever could


Cool meme bro, should go viral.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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I'm watching Paxman right now, he's making the point that Blair and Cameron followed her economic policies. He's right.


Yup. And each one has stepped it up a few gears.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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ITT unhinged liberals do more for conservatism than margaret thatcher ever could

If you get the chance, ask a Welshman what he thinks of her. I swear they invent swear words I've never heard of before.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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Great clip Spenno. She sure had balls. And every single MP on every side, but particularly her own, lived in outright fear of her. She met her match once, we had a PM, Charles Haughey. He gave her the willies completely(though he was the corrupt carbon copy of her)

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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Just to say 'Margaret Thatcher on Socialism' is the funniest thing I've read all day.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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nice eulogy from Morrissey: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/08/morrissey-thatcher-was-a-terror-without-an-atom-of-humanity.html

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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Saw that earlier.
He's so fucking needy usually and this smacks of it but in this instance, he's right.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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I don't agree with all of this, but it pretty much encapsulates all the things I'm hearing today.

http://anotherangryvoice.blogspot.co.uk ... -dead.html

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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It is 20 years since it mattered if she was alive or dead. If she had died when she was still PM I would have been dancing in the street but now I'm not really too interested.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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Ultimately it should only strengthen the fight against our current Thatcherite 'dictatorship'.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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Holy shit, what's going on here?

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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If you get the chance, ask a Welshman what he thinks of her. I swear they invent swear words I've never heard of before.


This.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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I would never pretend to be an expert on British politics.
But my mother (a Brit who has spent the last 30+ years in the U.S.) is a screaming liberal and thinks that Thatcher actually did a lot of good for the U.K. in the long run. Mostly from mentality standpoint. She thinks Brits relied on the government and social programs far too much and her policies lessened that dependency. She also thinks her economic policies, that were carried on by those who followed, meant the country felt less of an impact from economic downturns.
On a side note, my brother is currently buying his council house from the government, which I believe is a program started by Thatcher.


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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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All I remember of the woman was that her and Reagan were pretty tight. So maybe they decided that in order to fight communism they also had to "stop feeding the bears" in their own countries? That's what I took from my childhood understanding of these particular political leaders of that time.


This bit about her calling Nelson Mandela a terrorist is bothersome though. I never knew she had said such a thing. Either way I think she should pay for her own funeral or forever be labeled a socialist, postmortem.


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I would never pretend to be an expert on British politics.
But my mother (a Brit who has spent the last 30+ years in the U.S.) is a screaming liberal and thinks that Thatcher actually did a lot of good for the U.K. in the long run. Mostly from mentality standpoint. She thinks Brits relied on the government and social programs far too much and her policies lessened that dependency. She also thinks her economic policies, that were carried on by those who followed, meant the country felt less of an impact from economic downturns.
On a side note, my brother is currently buying his council house from the government, which I believe is a program started by Thatcher.


She sounds like someone who might be 'liberal' in terms of American politics but a Tory at heart, like most of the New Labour party.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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All I remember of the woman was that her and Reagan were pretty tight. So maybe they decided that in order to fight communism they also had to "stop feeding the bears" in their own countries? That's what I took from my childhood understanding of these particular political leaders of that time.


This bit about her calling Nelson Mandela a terrorist is bothersome though. I never knew she had said such a thing. Either way I think she should pay for her own funeral or forever be labeled a socialist, postmortem.


She called his organisation a 'typical' terrorist organisation, and allegedly called him a 'grubby little terrorist'.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Margaret Thatcher
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Nelson Mandela would've fit the CIA criteria for murder-droning just as much as Al-Awlaki. Promoting violent acts in the furtherance of political aims and whatnot.


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