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Post subject: Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Fri October 16, 2020 10:29 pm
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
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I prefer the conspiracy theory that Twitter did it to themselves to further suppress the news, deflect from the uproar, and maybe dump some files while they are at it.
Post subject: Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Fri October 16, 2020 10:31 pm
Misplaced My Sponge
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Facebook is cautioning that users must be in good standing in order to purchase and use their VR equipment. I look forward to a low social credit score locking me out of my devices.
Post subject: Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sat October 17, 2020 6:10 pm
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simple schoolboy wrote:
Facebook is cautioning that users must be in good standing in order to purchase and use their VR equipment. I look forward to a low social credit score locking me out of my devices.
Maybe lay off the Armenia stuff a bit
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Post subject: Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sat October 17, 2020 7:14 pm
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Bi_3 wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Facebook is cautioning that users must be in good standing in order to purchase and use their VR equipment. I look forward to a low social credit score locking me out of my devices.
Post subject: Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sun October 18, 2020 9:20 pm
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm Posts: 39834 Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
simple schoolboy wrote:
Bi_3 wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
Facebook is cautioning that users must be in good standing in order to purchase and use their VR equipment. I look forward to a low social credit score locking me out of my devices.
Post subject: Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Sun October 18, 2020 11:07 pm
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Anybody ever heard of Casey Neistat before? I'd never heard of him until today. One of my students wrote a paper on him. I've just watched a few videos. Seems like pretty vapid stuff to me, though I do appreciate the energy of his videos. But maybe I'm missing something, and he's as brilliant and groundbreaking as my student would have me believe?
Post subject: Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Tue October 20, 2020 2:24 am
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Anybody ever heard of Casey Neistat before? I'd never heard of him until today. One of my students wrote a paper on him. I've just watched a few videos. Seems like pretty vapid stuff to me, though I do appreciate the energy of his videos. But maybe I'm missing something, and he's as brilliant and groundbreaking as my student would have me believe?
All I know about him is that he is so aggressively unattractive that I have a hard time looking at him, but good for him for making a lot of money on morons or whatever he does.
The bad actors in the movie’s narrative are advertisers and the wealthy social media firms. At one point in the movie, Parakilas states, “It’s not like they’re [the social media companies] trying to benefit us. Right? We’re just zombies and they want us to look at more ads so they can make more money.” What’s the problem with that? You might think in a standard-length movie, the critics would try to say why. Here’s the amazing thing: they don’t.
So let’s fill in the missing reasoning. Think about why companies would pay social media firms to advertise. It’s to get people to buy their products. If advertising on social media were seen as completely ineffective, companies would pay precisely zero for advertising. The fact that they keep paying and that social media companies get rich by selling advertising, month in, month out, means that advertising is effective.
Wouldn’t you want the critics in the movie to then point to how advertising manipulates our tastes for products, causing us to buy things we don’t “really” want? Amazingly, they don’t.
The closest the movie comes to making a case is near the end of the movie, when Rosenstein states:
Corporations are using powerful artificial intelligence to outsmart us and figure out how to pull our attention to what they want us to look at, rather than the things that are most consistent with our goals and our values and our lives.
But why would they do that? Isn’t it easier to sell us things that are consistent with our goals, our values, and our lives?
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Post subject: Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Mon November 16, 2020 3:11 am
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
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I'm not too worried about them using algorithms to get people to buy things. I wonder if it's even that effective. It's the censorship and echo chambers that are the really worry. I don't know how you solve the problem of echo chambers, but they don't seem interested in trying.
Post subject: Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Mon November 16, 2020 3:15 am
NYUCK NYUCK NYUCK
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 3:35 pm Posts: 32303 Location: Buenos Aires
tragabigzanda wrote:
Anybody ever heard of Casey Neistat before? I'd never heard of him until today. One of my students wrote a paper on him. I've just watched a few videos. Seems like pretty vapid stuff to me, though I do appreciate the energy of his videos. But maybe I'm missing something, and he's as brilliant and groundbreaking as my student would have me believe?
Yeah a massively successful Youtuber but I don't really get it
He was in that Netflix movie with Joseph Gordon Levitt a few months ago
Post subject: Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Mon November 16, 2020 3:15 am
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BurtReynolds wrote:
I'm not too worried about them using algorithms to get people to buy things. I wonder if it's even that effective. It's the censorship and echo chambers that are the really worry. I don't know how you solve the problem of echo chambers, but they don't seem interested in trying.
If Parler is any indication, the solution seems to be to double down on the echo. Not ideal, but at least the grackle brains are yelling into the wind now. censorship and less regulation is probably the best solution. Let the wheat and chaff of free speech live and die by natural selection.
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Post subject: Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Mon November 16, 2020 3:16 am
NYUCK NYUCK NYUCK
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Jorge wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Anybody ever heard of Casey Neistat before? I'd never heard of him until today. One of my students wrote a paper on him. I've just watched a few videos. Seems like pretty vapid stuff to me, though I do appreciate the energy of his videos. But maybe I'm missing something, and he's as brilliant and groundbreaking as my student would have me believe?
Yeah a massively successful Youtuber but I don't really get it
He was in that Netflix movie with Joseph Gordon Levitt a few months ago
Post subject: Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Tue November 17, 2020 8:11 pm
Production Police
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 47176 Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
Jorge wrote:
Jorge wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Anybody ever heard of Casey Neistat before? I'd never heard of him until today. One of my students wrote a paper on him. I've just watched a few videos. Seems like pretty vapid stuff to me, though I do appreciate the energy of his videos. But maybe I'm missing something, and he's as brilliant and groundbreaking as my student would have me believe?
Yeah a massively successful Youtuber but I don't really get it
He was in that Netflix movie with Joseph Gordon Levitt a few months ago
Oh that's from October
that's ok, I never saw Burt's response until today! I did not know he was in that movie.
Post subject: Re: Social Media: The God That Failed
Posted: Wed December 09, 2020 9:30 pm
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Now where will my uncle be able to expose the super secret plans of the Deep State?
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