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BurtReynolds wrote:
Doesn't really hold up to any scrutiny.
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
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I mean like not even in a funny way.
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
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Mickey wrote:
I mean like not even in a funny way.
There was some resistance to this in the group I stole it from, but the meme's truth won out in the end. The panopticon is basically slave morality with extra steps. Foucault is Nietzsche for non-chads.
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Mickey wrote:
I mean like not even in a funny way.
There was some resistance to this in the group I stole it from, but the meme's truth won out in the end. The panopticon is basically slave morality with extra steps. Foucault is Nietzsche for non-chads.
"I am simply a Nietzschean.”
Oh well if the meme group said so then we can just move right along.
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
Burt have you read Genealogy or D&P?
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
I mean I don't really give a shit if some FB randos want to reduce the panopticon to Nietzsche 2: Electric Boogaloo. It would by no means be the worst thing that has happened on Facebook and I'm not particularly invested in defending Foucault as an original thinker (though I think he *is* one, and has been foundationally important for me in many ways). It just strikes me as kind of a lazy joke, one that's neither particularly funny nor particularly insightful, and primarily aimed at people who have *heard of* some of Foucault's major ideas. But you seem to be legitimately interested in the history of ideas (though I think you live in bananaland when it comes to chumps like Shapiro). Why not read the books? Foucault borrows, more than anything, his methodology from Nietzsche, but his conception of power is quite different and, I think, much more relevant to our present day.
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
Also, for what it's worth, I legitimately enjoy reading Foucault. The lectures at the College de France are especially lucid, and though they're a bit more of a deep dive they'll still get you to some of his central ideas (especially his late career stuff). I can't say the same for Nietzsche--he's got some good one-liners and it's clearer than a whole mess of 19th century writing but it's incredibly repetitive.
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
An enigma of a man shaped hole in the wall between reality and the soul of the devil.
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:13 pm Posts: 39821 Location: 6000 feet beyond man and time.
Mickey wrote:
Also, for what it's worth, I legitimately enjoy reading Foucault. The lectures at the College de France are especially lucid, and though they're a bit more of a deep dive they'll still get you to some of his central ideas (especially his late career stuff). I can't say the same for Nietzsche--he's got some good one-liners and it's clearer than a whole mess of 19th century writing but it's incredibly repetitive.
Have you read Nietzsche's earlier stuff? I've been going back over Birth of Tragedy and there is a lot of good stuff there.
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BurtReynolds wrote:
Mickey wrote:
Also, for what it's worth, I legitimately enjoy reading Foucault. The lectures at the College de France are especially lucid, and though they're a bit more of a deep dive they'll still get you to some of his central ideas (especially his late career stuff). I can't say the same for Nietzsche--he's got some good one-liners and it's clearer than a whole mess of 19th century writing but it's incredibly repetitive.
Have you read Nietzsche's earlier stuff? I've been going back over Birth of Tragedy and there is a lot of good stuff there.
It's fine for what it is (edit: it here = BoT) but I don't think it holds up very well/I don't have much use for it. I have enjoyed ranking political candidates as Dionysiac vs Apolline
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
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