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 Post subject: Re: The DMZ: A thread about North Korea
PostPosted: Wed January 06, 2016 4:41 am 
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 Post subject: Re: The DMZ: A thread about North Korea
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Be worried about the improvement of delivery mechanisms, not the size of the bomb. They already have one, and the ability to blackmail comes from the perceived willingness and ability to use one, not the size.

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 Post subject: Re: The DMZ: A thread about North Korea
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Be worried about the improvement of delivery mechanisms, not the size of the bomb

That's what countries with small bombs always say.

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 Post subject: Re: The DMZ: A thread about North Korea
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Be worried about the improvement of delivery mechanisms, not the size of the bomb

That's what countries with small bombs always say.

:lol:

That was a good chuckle, sarge.

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 Post subject: Re: The War on Terror /Central Asia/Mid East/Africa thread
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I thought there was a north korea thread but i couldnt find it within the first couple pages so fuck it.

So, these guys are obviously testing nukes on a seemingly regular basis. They have threatened the US. They have threatened basically everyone and we know he is a legit nut case.

Why isn't this discussed as one of the top national security priorities of our time? Legit question because i guess i honestly do not understand this.


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 Post subject: Re: The DMZ: A thread about North Korea
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Someone modded the shit out of your post, start.

I think it all comes down to the perception of NK as kind of a foolish state run by a bumbling child, so no one really cares to talk about it. However, I'm sure the US gov't at least (and probably China and Russia, too) gathers plenty of intelligence to make sure their capabilities to actually attack don't reach a certain point. If they did, I'm sure we'd see some sort of action.

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 Post subject: Re: The DMZ: A thread about North Korea
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The most recent defector's comments about the power "crumbling" in NK are something else. I wonder if we'll see NK go through a major change soon. Would be a lot like watching the Berlin Wall come down.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/worl ... v=top-news


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 Post subject: Re: The DMZ: A thread about North Korea
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Also, that article lead me to this photo. Why are the stuffed animals humping?

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Also, that article lead me to this photo. Why are the stuffed animals humping?

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I vaguely remember that being a story when it came out. Some people thought someone staged it behind him as a joke, a way to make him look foolish? Something like that.

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tragabigzanda wrote:
Also, that article lead me to this photo. Why are the stuffed animals humping?

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I vaguely remember that being a story when it came out. Some people thought someone staged it behind him as a joke, a way to make him look foolish? Something like that.

...and now the prankster is dead.


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 Post subject: Re: The DMZ: A thread about North Korea
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tragabigzanda wrote:
The most recent defector's comments about the power "crumbling" in NK are something else. I wonder if we'll see NK go through a major change soon. Would be a lot like watching the Berlin Wall come down.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/worl ... v=top-news


Who was that Iraqi that made up all that stuff about mobile chemical labs that were total bull?

Sure, this guy is only commenting on general instability, but how does he maintain his position/ income without drawing attention to himself as a particularly useful source?


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 Post subject: Re: The DMZ: A thread about North Korea
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tragabigzanda wrote:
The most recent defector's comments about the power "crumbling" in NK are something else. I wonder if we'll see NK go through a major change soon. Would be a lot like watching the Berlin Wall come down.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/25/worl ... v=top-news


Who was that Iraqi that made up all that stuff about mobile chemical labs that were total bull?

Sure, this guy is only commenting on general instability, but how does he maintain his position/ income without drawing attention to himself as a particularly useful source?

maintain his position/income where? He defected.

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 Post subject: Re: The DMZ: A thread about North Korea
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Moving this here.

tragabigzanda wrote:
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Also, building nukes has got to be a pretty basic thing at this point considering we built them 70 years ago?

Conceptually basic but practically very difficult. Enriching euranium requires facilities far beyond the scope of what is allowed by the UN, and those facilities are too large and advanced to function in secret.

But NK doesnt give a fuck about the UN. He already deprives his country and people of basic needs so really what is stopping him?

I just feel like North Korea may be the bigger threat?

I'm really speaking honestly and from a place of ignorance on this. Im very curious.

But the UN monitors NK very closely. If he tried to enrich euranium without UN approval, UN would impose further sanctions on their already extremely limited trade. The dictatorship functions by keeping the populace malnourished and misinformed. But there's a limit to how much they'll stand for (and the trade of black market news and culture is at an all-time high). It's a tricky balance, keeping your nation scared enough that they won't completely revolt. Inviting further meddling from the outside world risks collapse of the dictatorship.

There's a terrific Frontline episode on all this, I think you can still stream it from pbs.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Moving this here.

tragabigzanda wrote:
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tragabigzanda wrote:
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Also, building nukes has got to be a pretty basic thing at this point considering we built them 70 years ago?

Conceptually basic but practically very difficult. Enriching euranium requires facilities far beyond the scope of what is allowed by the UN, and those facilities are too large and advanced to function in secret.

But NK doesnt give a fuck about the UN. He already deprives his country and people of basic needs so really what is stopping him?

I just feel like North Korea may be the bigger threat?

I'm really speaking honestly and from a place of ignorance on this. Im very curious.

But the UN monitors NK very closely. If he tried to enrich euranium without UN approval, UN would impose further sanctions on their already extremely limited trade. The dictatorship functions by keeping the populace malnourished and misinformed. But there's a limit to how much they'll stand for (and the trade of black market news and culture is at an all-time high). It's a tricky balance, keeping your nation scared enough that they won't completely revolt. Inviting further meddling from the outside world risks collapse of the dictatorship.

There's a terrific Frontline episode on all this, I think you can still stream it from pbs.


So do you think NK really cares about all this? I want to listen to that episode. Ill look it up. Thats fascinating.


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See my post earlier on this page about the defector. I think he knows his dictatorship is under serious threat.

Frontline is a TV show, not a podcast. This particular ep is one of the best I've watched. It's mostly hidden/smuggled footage, and the music is trippy.


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