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Zoos: Good or Bad?
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Author:  Strat [ Mon December 04, 2017 10:33 pm ]
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
to be fair, i'm super conflicted on this issue

That's okay. That is because zoo's o many wonderful things.

Personally, its just depressing to see a gorilla sitting there staring at a glass wall and leaning on some pretend boulders.

Author:  McParadigm [ Mon December 04, 2017 10:34 pm ]
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My ex-fiancé is an exotic pet veterinarian and former researcher, and sort of one of those people more empathetic to animals than to people. She's a pretty vocal modern zoo advocate. This article reminds me a lot of a simplified, less richly exampled version of her stance:

http://time.com/4364671/zoos-improve-lives-of-animals/

Author:  Kaius [ Mon December 04, 2017 10:39 pm ]
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we all must choose a side.

Author:  McParadigm [ Mon December 04, 2017 11:07 pm ]
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Kaius wrote:
we all must choose a side.

Image

Author:  McParadigm [ Mon December 04, 2017 11:08 pm ]
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Every penguin dies. Not every penguin truly lives.

Author:  Norris [ Mon December 04, 2017 11:08 pm ]
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McParadigm wrote:
Kaius wrote:
we all must choose a side.

Image

i laughed harder at that than i should have

Author:  McParadigm [ Mon December 04, 2017 11:09 pm ]
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Honestly though they're much better off in their own collapsing ecosystem. A zoo is just a fast food restaurant in waiting for those fleeing the zombie hordes.

Author:  B [ Mon December 04, 2017 11:58 pm ]
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Bi_3 wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
whales don't belong in tanks, no matter what good things the tank owners do to make up for it


Would you say it's worse that an animal like a beluga whale be in a tank or that people who cannot afford to go whale watching never get the chance to see one?


Argue what you want, but the Georgia Aquarium says they're helping protect belugas in the wild with research at their aquarium.

http://www.georgiaaquarium.org/conserve ... uga-whales

Author:  JuanHamm [ Mon June 12, 2023 2:48 pm ]
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Let's debate the ethics of zoos and aquariums.

Author:  tree_ [ Mon June 12, 2023 2:58 pm ]
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It depends on how they treat their animals. In some aspects, for a lot of zoo creatures, they're living a better, safer life than they would out in the wild. The St. Louis zoo is nice and has good vibes.

Author:  E.H. Ruddock [ Mon June 12, 2023 3:01 pm ]
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Bump for tommy

Author:  Peeps [ Mon June 12, 2023 3:18 pm ]
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I liked the New Zoo Revue

Author:  spike [ Mon June 12, 2023 3:24 pm ]
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tree_ wrote:
It depends on how they treat their animals. In some aspects, for a lot of zoo creatures, they're living a better, safer life than they would out in the wild. The St. Louis zoo is nice and has good vibes.

Safer maybe, but better? These are wild beasts, not slovenly humans like us.

Author:  Jorge [ Mon June 12, 2023 3:28 pm ]
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People kept recommending the St Louis zoo and I thought it was nice but not really much different from any other zoo I've visited

Author:  tragabigzanda [ Mon June 12, 2023 3:30 pm ]
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Hate them. Unable to take a rational position because my emotional reaction is so viscerally negative

Author:  Strat [ Mon June 12, 2023 4:28 pm ]
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If they are utilized as sanctuaries nursing individual animals or populations for reintroduction in the wild then great.

They are very depressing though. Seeing polar bears at the San Diego zoo broke my heart.

Snakes should be kept in tanks at zoos though. Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

Author:  tree_ [ Mon June 12, 2023 4:33 pm ]
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It's funny to me that you guys are against zoos keeping pets but have your very own personal zoos, with cats and dogs and such. Why not just let them run free in the wild too?

Author:  JuanHamm [ Mon June 12, 2023 4:35 pm ]
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Jorge wrote:
I like seeing animals, and I've gone to a bunch of zoos, but they are very hard to defend. Every argument seems flimsy



This is how I feel. I've always loved zoos, but they can be quite depressing. I hate seeing the big cats pacing in their enclosures.

Author:  JuanHamm [ Mon June 12, 2023 4:36 pm ]
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tree_ wrote:
It's funny to me that you guys are against zoos keeping pets but have your very own personal zoos, with cats and dogs and such. Why not just let them run free in the wild too?



It would be chaos. For better or worse cats and dogs exist and the best we can do is give them a good place to live.

Author:  tree_ [ Mon June 12, 2023 4:37 pm ]
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JuanHamm wrote:
tree_ wrote:
It's funny to me that you guys are against zoos keeping pets but have your very own personal zoos, with cats and dogs and such. Why not just let them run free in the wild too?



It would be chaos. For better or worse cats and dogs exist and the best we can do is give them a good place to live.

you can apply that reasoning to all animals in zoos too

you don't think the jungle is chaos?

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