Mon December 04, 2017 9:11 pm
Mon December 04, 2017 9:15 pm
Mon December 04, 2017 9:31 pm
cutuphalfdead wrote:whales don't belong in tanks, no matter what good things the tank owners do to make up for it
Mon December 04, 2017 9:34 pm
Bi_3 wrote:Would you say it's worse that an animal like a beluga whale be in a tank?
Mon December 04, 2017 9:41 pm
cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:Would you say it's worse that an animal like a beluga whale be in a tank?
yes
Mon December 04, 2017 9:42 pm
cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:Would you say it's worse that an animal like a beluga whale be in a tank?
yes
Mon December 04, 2017 9:43 pm
Bi_3 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:Would you say it's worse that an animal like a beluga whale be in a tank?
yes
I tend to think the same (despite is feeling like privilege flexing). Something in me just says "people need nature", probably my boomer-lefist upbringing.
Mon December 04, 2017 9:47 pm
Mon December 04, 2017 9:48 pm
cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:Would you say it's worse that an animal like a beluga whale be in a tank?
yes
I tend to think the same (despite is feeling like privilege flexing). Something in me just says "people need nature", probably my boomer-lefist upbringing.
people don't have a fundamental right to interact with any animal you can feasibly capture and bring to the masses
there are plenty of opportunities to interact with nature and animals that don't involve putting whales in tanks
go to a national park, visit a farm, etc, etc
Mon December 04, 2017 9:52 pm
Bi_3 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:Would you say it's worse that an animal like a beluga whale be in a tank?
yes
I tend to think the same (despite is feeling like privilege flexing). Something in me just says "people need nature", probably my boomer-lefist upbringing.
people don't have a fundamental right to interact with any animal you can feasibly capture and bring to the masses
there are plenty of opportunities to interact with nature and animals that don't involve putting whales in tanks
go to a national park, visit a farm, etc, etc
This presumes economic ability. Perhaps whale was a bad example... sting ray?
Mon December 04, 2017 10:15 pm
cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:Would you say it's worse that an animal like a beluga whale be in a tank?
yes
I tend to think the same (despite is feeling like privilege flexing). Something in me just says "people need nature", probably my boomer-lefist upbringing.
people don't have a fundamental right to interact with any animal you can feasibly capture and bring to the masses
there are plenty of opportunities to interact with nature and animals that don't involve putting whales in tanks
go to a national park, visit a farm, etc, etc
This presumes economic ability. Perhaps whale was a bad example... sting ray?
everything presumes economic ability, have you seen how much it is to get inside a good aquarium these days?
also, i don't think a blanket answer exists for all animals here. whales shouldn't be in tanks, elephants shouldn't be in cages, stingrays might be another story
Mon December 04, 2017 10:17 pm
Kaius wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:Would you say it's worse that an animal like a beluga whale be in a tank?
yes
I tend to think the same (despite is feeling like privilege flexing). Something in me just says "people need nature", probably my boomer-lefist upbringing.
people don't have a fundamental right to interact with any animal you can feasibly capture and bring to the masses
there are plenty of opportunities to interact with nature and animals that don't involve putting whales in tanks
go to a national park, visit a farm, etc, etc
This presumes economic ability. Perhaps whale was a bad example... sting ray?
everything presumes economic ability, have you seen how much it is to get inside a good aquarium these days?
also, i don't think a blanket answer exists for all animals here. whales shouldn't be in tanks, elephants shouldn't be in cages, stingrays might be another story
Do bigger things have more value than smaller things?
Mon December 04, 2017 10:17 pm
Kaius wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:cutuphalfdead wrote:Bi_3 wrote:Would you say it's worse that an animal like a beluga whale be in a tank?
yes
I tend to think the same (despite is feeling like privilege flexing). Something in me just says "people need nature", probably my boomer-lefist upbringing.
people don't have a fundamental right to interact with any animal you can feasibly capture and bring to the masses
there are plenty of opportunities to interact with nature and animals that don't involve putting whales in tanks
go to a national park, visit a farm, etc, etc
This presumes economic ability. Perhaps whale was a bad example... sting ray?
everything presumes economic ability, have you seen how much it is to get inside a good aquarium these days?
also, i don't think a blanket answer exists for all animals here. whales shouldn't be in tanks, elephants shouldn't be in cages, stingrays might be another story
Do bigger things have more value than smaller things?
Mon December 04, 2017 10:17 pm
Mon December 04, 2017 10:21 pm
Mon December 04, 2017 10:21 pm
Mon December 04, 2017 10:28 pm
Green Habit wrote:I say it depends on each animal we're talking about. Animals that can be kept reasonably well in captivity strike me as a positive, particularly for kids (as mentioned above) that may marvel at nature's wonders and grow up to give nature its due respect. Animals where captivity is unreasonable should not be kept in zoos.
Mon December 04, 2017 10:30 pm
Mon December 04, 2017 10:32 pm
Mon December 04, 2017 10:32 pm