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 Post subject: Re: Antifa?
PostPosted: Sat September 09, 2017 4:36 am 
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Someone motivated by BLM murders five cops. Another murders two more. Bernie bro shoots 5 people in Washington. Months of repeated riots and attacks in Berkeley and elsewhere that have nothing to do with nazis and started happening well before Charlottesville. Repeated attacks on people that no one with a brain would call nazis or white supremacists. There are thousands of them, yet only a few hundred white supremacists. Yet somehow Nazis are the greatest threat to America? Give me a break.

There really isn't a comparison here.

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 Post subject: Re: Antifa?
PostPosted: Sat September 09, 2017 4:40 am 
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Of the 85 violent extremist incidents that resulted in death since September 12, 2001, far-right wing violent extremist groups were responsible for 62 (73 percent)


Report developed by a Republican-led Accountability Office, and peer reviewed by multiple conservative-leaning law enforcement groups.

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 Post subject: Re: Antifa?
PostPosted: Sat September 09, 2017 4:41 am 
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WOAH 62 attacks in 16 years!? Holy shit the fourth reich is upon us. Suspend the first and second amendments! Punch anyone who isn't a communist!

More people were shot in Chicago last week.

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 Post subject: Re: Antifa?
PostPosted: Sat September 09, 2017 5:39 am 
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
simple schoolboy wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
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Wendy Carlos's Twin wrote:
I love how Trump supporters suddenly become sensitive towards the feelings of others when a liberal reacts violently towards something outrageous. It never fails. So transparent and disingenuous.


What does this even mean?

Seems pretty clear. Which part are you having trouble understanding?


Being concerned about people getting punched and bludgeoned /= "sensitive towards ... feelings".

Also, wearing a MAGA hat or merely attending a Trump rally in 2016 especially, not that outrageous. Patriot Prayer, not outrageous. Befuddling, maybe. Outrageous? How?

Charlottesville, outrageous? I'll grant you that. That however, did not occur in a vacuum.

When these same people haven't been concerned at all with how their views, politics, privilege, and ignorance marginalize, dehumanize, and endanger minorities, then yeah, they're being selectively sensitive to the feelings/safety of white, racist pieces of shit. Like them.


So, speech = violence? You don't understand why I don't buy into that?


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 Post subject: Re: Antifa?
PostPosted: Sat September 09, 2017 11:58 am 
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
When these same people haven't been concerned at all with how their views, politics, privilege, and ignorance marginalize, dehumanize, and endanger minorities, then yeah, they're being selectively sensitive to the feelings/safety of white, racist pieces of shit. Like them.


Instead of attacking this comment, and you know I want to, it might be beneficial to take this up a few levels.

What your suggesting is not unreasonable at all, but it makes assumptions about what one person 'owes' to another and IMO that is part of the political disconnect in 'Merica and really most of western civilization right now. What obligations do you feel we owe other individuals? I feel like the question is particularly core to modern social justice movements , especially in the context of positive vs. negative injunctions with regards to minority groups given your statement above.


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 Post subject: Re: Antifa?
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Living in a society, there are certain social constructs everyone tacitly agrees to in order for that society to function. Like not driving into oncoming traffic. Or not breaking into someone else's house. When these rules are violated, we punish the violator. Adhering to these rules is done out of a mix of self-preservation and courtesy to others.

I'm kind of rambling, but basically, I don't believe society can function if we don't, to some degree, care about each other. We owe each other that much. Something I keep thinking about a lot is a political op-ed I saw somewhere recently responding to a lot of conservative and libertarian policies being pursued and arguments being made lately that was simply titled "I Don't Know How to Explain to You That You Should Care About Other People." Sometimes it seems like there is a fundamental disconnect there when these political discussions come up. As someone whose wife is a Hispanic sexual abuse survivor, as someone who has friends who are gay, disabled, and transgender, as someone who is upset by the imbalance of power and wealth in this country, yes, it upsets me when so many conservatives want to enact policies that further marginalize people I care about. That make it harder for them to thrive and feel safe. That make it harder for people like me to succeed or be happy. That make it harder for all of us to care about each other. I'm a victim of it myself - I never imagined myself as someone who would see ANYONE getting beaten up and think it was a good thing. But that's what this last year of politics has done to me. The disillusionment has been brutal.


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 Post subject: Re: Antifa?
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Living in a society, there are certain social constructs everyone tacitly agrees to in order for that society to function. Like not driving into oncoming traffic. Or not breaking into someone else's house. When these rules are violated, we punish the violator. Adhering to these rules is done out of a mix of self-preservation and courtesy to others.

I'm kind of rambling, but basically, I don't believe society can function if we don't, to some degree, care about each other. We owe each other that much. Something I keep thinking about a lot is a political op-ed I saw somewhere recently responding to a lot of conservative and libertarian policies being pursued and arguments being made lately that was simply titled "I Don't Know How to Explain to You That You Should Care About Other People." Sometimes it seems like there is a fundamental disconnect there when these political discussions come up. As someone whose wife is a Hispanic sexual abuse survivor, as someone who has friends who are gay, disabled, and transgender, as someone who is upset by the imbalance of power and wealth in this country, yes, it upsets me when so many conservatives want to enact policies that further marginalize people I care about. That make it harder for them to thrive and feel safe. That make it harder for people like me to succeed or be happy. That make it harder for all of us to care about each other. I'm a victim of it myself - I never imagined myself as someone who would see ANYONE getting beaten up and think it was a good thing. But that's what this last year of politics has done to me. The disillusionment has been brutal.


I want to respond to this properly, but I have to run kids to soccer, so maybe later this afternoon. Let me just say that I have nothing but respect for what you wrote there. It's an admirable and honest perspective to take when thinking about larger problems; to look at real effects on real people are not just take a stance to take one or fit in.


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