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Donald Trump (R) 44%  44%  [ 59 ]
Joe Biden (D) 41%  41%  [ 55 ]
Jacob Hornberger (L) 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Howie Hawkins (G) 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Other 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
COVID-19 12%  12%  [ 16 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
PostPosted: Sun September 15, 2019 4:10 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Polling is reaaaally starting to look like Warren could be the nominee

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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McParadigm wrote:
Polling is reaaaally starting to look like Warren could be the nominee


Biden still has the African American vote by a wide margin.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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McParadigm wrote:
Polling is reaaaally starting to look like Warren could be the nominee


Biden still has the African American vote by a wide margin.

Biden’s biggest problem is the “second choice candidate” polling. Warren is the preferred second choice by a wide margin for Sanders fans and for Harris and Buttigieg followers, and is roughly even with Biden for every other candidate’s voters. When people start dropping out, she’s likely to pick up a lot more followers than he is.

That’s a big part go how Obama flipped his circumstances against Clinton in 08. He was a lot of people’s second choice...she was almost nobody’s.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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I think the real golden gun is the Sanders-Warren unity ticket.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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I am thinking about putting a bet down on Warren winning the election while the odds are still good.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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McParadigm wrote:




Assuming she can successfully pivot away from the SJW fucktardery required to win the nom, she would be the best option we have right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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I might be out in left field, but I think Warren has a real opportunity here that is reminiscent of the 1980 election but maybe in exact reverse in terms of ideology. I mean, you have a pretty unpopular president (Trump and we’ll. Carter at the time) with much international turmoil affecting people’s bottom line (trade wars and the oil crisis in the late 70s) and a pretty charismatic candidate looking at a real fundamental policy change that just might stick (Reaganomics and Medicare for All). The former changed the base conversation on politics for good or ill for the next 40 years. The latter will be tested over the next several months. Personally, I do hope that she does pull ahead, and I have been impressed with her campaign after rebounding from its initial roll out.

I could also be way overthinking this.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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after trump's win I think everyone is over-thinking this thing.


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bune wrote:
after trump's win I think everyone is over-thinking this thing.

Or they overthink Trump’s win and underthink the midterms.

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War with Iran ought to set everyone straight


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Funny how once a populist message catches hold, it doesn't really just go away because grandpa showed up and started squawking


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Funny how once a populist message catches hold, it doesn't really just go away because grandpa showed up and started squawking


How do you mean?

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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Funny how once a populist message catches hold, it doesn't really just go away because grandpa showed up and started squawking


Free shit is a powerful message

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tragabigzanda wrote:
Funny how once a populist message catches hold, it doesn't really just go away because grandpa showed up and started squawking


How do you mean?


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Free shit is a powerful message


Sort of what Bi_3 said, but also that Trump came in on a populist message in 2016 (while Bernie's own populist message got sidelined by Wasserman-Schultz). Now both sides are taking their own approach to populism, only the right is calling the left's "socialism," and the left is calling the right's "fascism."

It's still just the same old battle for the soul of the middle class, but the messaging has gotten so fucked and distorted.


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