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Vote Before You Can Vote!
Donald Trump (R) 44%  44%  [ 59 ]
Joe Biden (D) 41%  41%  [ 55 ]
Jacob Hornberger (L) 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Howie Hawkins (G) 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Other 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
COVID-19 12%  12%  [ 16 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
PostPosted: Wed January 13, 2021 3:05 am 
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i'm sorry burt

on the plus side, try anarcho-syndicalism you might like it

Made up fairytale nonsense. Give me a real ideology like anarcho-primitivism.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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The things a corporation does to make money, the practices it engages in, the policies its lobbyists push for, and the things its brand account says on Twitter, all of these are the same thing, you rubes, you fucking imbeciles.

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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Conservatives don't hold any power because no brand account is going to tweet "he didn't do nuffin" after the next cop shooting.

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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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i can't tell what is a sarcastic comment anymore

conservatives run the Federal Reserve and the Supreme Court

they have all the power

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Yeah but those aren't real conservatives.

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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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i see

indeed, we are long overdue in this thread for definitions of 'conservative' and 'liberal'

those should have been step 1

instead we jumped straight to step 10:

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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tragabigzanda wrote:
Burt I’m not sure how your defining “institutions,” but I guess you’re not counting any of the Fortune 500 companies or Dow Industrial giants?

I'm talking general categories: entertainment/culture production, the church, the government, the school system, the news media, social media (edit: forgot corporations and banks, which is a huge omission!)
Center left liberals control nearly all of them (ranging from slight control to total domination.) That doesn't mean conservatives don't have some power here and there within those categories.

Maybe I shouldn't say "interests" because some interpret that as "what's good for them" rather than "their desires". Everybody thinks they know what good for them, and what do you know, it means accepting their politics!

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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96583UP wrote:
i see

indeed, we are long overdue in this thread for definitions of 'conservative' and 'liberal'

those should have been step 1

instead we jumped straight to step 10:

Spoiler: show
potty-talk

Language and definitions are a huge hurdle to be sure. I've tried to differentiate between establishment republicans (including their donors) and the populist right when I can. It's not the same thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Language keeps me locked and repeating

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Maybe a visual aid will help.

As you can see, there are two "rights". They are sometimes aligned, sure, but other times not.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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where does Conservatism fall on this chart? i don't see it

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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looks like they really dislike Pat Buchanan

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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where does Conservatism fall on this chart? i don't see it

All I know is that there are two sides: Either you are a democrat, or you are a republican.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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in Canada they have a Marijuana Party

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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oh no its getting out of hand!
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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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I haven't even started on the political compass tesseract.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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i still don't see Conservatism on here

so i'll just go ahead and define it:

- going to church
- being against abortion
- likes baseball
- believes in smaller government
- believes in states' rights
- wages war for economic gain
- lowers corporate taxes
- uses airport bathrooms for anonymous gay sex


what did i miss

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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sounds more neocon.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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96583UP wrote:
i still don't see Conservatism on here

so i'll just go ahead and define it:

- going to church
- being against abortion
- likes baseball
- believes in smaller government
- believes in states' rights
- wages war for economic gain
- lowers corporate taxes
- uses airport bathrooms for anonymous gay sex


what did i miss

Is Biden a conservative, you think?

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Y'all, in this thread we're so close to answering all of this guy's questions



I'm just enjoying Burt debating again. He really got iced there for a minute.


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