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Vote Before You Can Vote!
Donald Trump (R) 44%  44%  [ 59 ]
Joe Biden (D) 41%  41%  [ 55 ]
Jacob Hornberger (L) 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Howie Hawkins (G) 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Other 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
COVID-19 12%  12%  [ 16 ]
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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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There are issues I disagree with the Democratic party platform on, but none of them is sufficient for me to commit to the absolute self-immolation of voting to empower at any level of government a political party that rejects the reality of climate change.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Develop a tolerance for self immolation.

And 1,001 Other Things Beto Says Into a Mirror Before Bed Every Night

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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I’ll be voting for moderate Republicans in the primary, then Dems in the general


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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tragabigzanda wrote:
I’ll be voting for moderate Republicans in the primary, then Dems in the general


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Dscans wrote:
Anyway, it made me think: If you believe in federalism, is voting at the national level for extreme, uncompromising candidates a more effective strategy than voting for a libertarian candidate? It seems that the outgrowth of this strategy is that it pushes power downward to the local level.
The thing about federalism is that hardly anyone believes in it when it conflicts with their ideological priors. Most people have differing opinions on what should be handled on the federal, state, or local levels, or not at all. And that's as true as libertarianism as it is with any other ideology--for example, many libertarians enjoy that the Bill Rights bar governments from doing some things on a federal level.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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tragabigzanda wrote:
I’ll be voting for moderate Republicans in the primary, then Dems in the general

Expanding further:

The MT leg only meets every two years. It’s a closed election state, with no party affiliations, so voters can only submit a red or blue ballot in every election, but aren’t beholden to either party. And the MT constitution mandates that it leaves every leg session with a balanced budget.

We’ve seen a movement in the state Republican party in the form of a group of moderate Republicans calling themselves the Solutions Caucus. They work across the aisle on issues like Medicaid expansion, civil projects, etc. Many of then are facing primaries from more extreme members of their party.

And the same holds true for most of the upper state offices. For example, our AG race has a very moderate Republican who’s previously implemented some great programs like Treatment Court for small-time offenses (for drug and alcohol offenses, offering substance abuse programs rather than jail time), and a tax-free savings plans for people with disabilities; up to $30K/year can be saved for medicine, equipment, procedures, medical travel, etc. He's up against an ultra-conservative Republican.

MT has a unique history of putting one party in control of the state Congress, and the other party in the Governor's office. This means that bills historically live or die by the Governor's veto.

I don't see my thinking here as *quite* the same as GH's support of legislative gridlock, but I think it stems from the same root: Find the middle.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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tragabigzanda wrote:
I don't see my thinking here as *quite* the same as GH's support of legislative gridlock, but I think it stems from the same root: Find the middle.
Eh, some times (not always) the middle can be worse than either extreme or inaction. I'm not deluding myself into thinking that split control of government will lead to my preferred policies. I mainly want things to not go off the rails with unchecked power.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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tragabigzanda wrote:
I don't see my thinking here as *quite* the same as GH's support of legislative gridlock, but I think it stems from the same root: Find the middle.
Eh, some times (not always) the middle can be worse than either extreme or inaction. I'm not deluding myself into thinking that split control of government will lead to my preferred policies. I mainly want things to not go off the rails with unchecked power.

Mostly the same, though I do support a couple big ticket liberal agenda items (Green New Deal or a realistic analog, gun control measures).


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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The lack of candidates demanding to move the Israel embassy back to Tel Aviv is very surprising.

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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The lack of candidates demanding to move the Israel embassy back to Tel Aviv is very surprising.

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I mean...is it, though?

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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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It would be surprising if Bernie hadn't signed on for that. But Warren has always been overly sympathetic to Israel relative to her other policy stances and half of these centrist fuckers stand with John Bolton on Venezuela, so while they might not have supported the embassy move in the first place, the idea that they're not going to undertake a project clearly antagonistic to Bibi and AIPAC is, for me, not particularly strange.

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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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I mean...is it, though?
Since the existence of Israel, all administrations, both Republican and Democratic until Trump, made it clear that the status of Jerusalem would not be declared unless as part of a peace agreement. The Zivitofsky Supreme Court case related to this issue spanned both the GWB and Obama administrations. Netanyahu has always been good at establishing facts on the ground, and this may be another instance of that.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Green Habit wrote:
Mickey wrote:
I mean...is it, though?
Since the existence of Israel, all administrations, both Republican and Democratic until Trump, made it clear that the status of Jerusalem would not be declared unless as part of a peace agreement. The Zivitofsky Supreme Court case related to this issue spanned both the GWB and Obama administrations. Netanyahu has always been good at establishing facts on the ground, and this may be another instance of that.


I don't disagree that accepting this move would be in effect caving to Netanyahu and moving the goalposts on the Palestine question. I just think the "facts on the ground" are clearly established--I can already hear the calls of anti-semitism for any candidate who proposes moving the embassy back, and I don't have faith that any of the Dems outside of Sanders are game for that fight.

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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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I'm getting a rush of nostalgia for when Lincoln Chafee was in the first Democratic debate in 2015 and was a total laughing stock. Rhode Island forever.


Guys, it's happening:


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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Okay but one time in Nevada a Bernie staffer may or may not have thrown a chair

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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.


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 Post subject: Re: Election 2020
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