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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
PostPosted: Thu March 14, 2019 8:11 pm 
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Isn’t Beto just the feel good Obama MKII?

Wouldn’t it be better to put someone against trump who can be proper attack dog without resorting to his insult and appeal to the stupidity approach?
Someone who can take him apart aggressively in debates and not be seen as some dem Ivy League elite ?


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PostPosted: Thu March 14, 2019 8:36 pm 
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I don’t know what the right formula is for defeating a Trump. I think the points made about the independents not supporting him since he took office (and the resulting response in 2018) mean mostly that it appears he could be an underdog for reelection.

However, in the end the real reason I think he loses in 2020 has to do with turnout. I don’t think Democrats and independents this time around need some inspirational force to get to the voting booth because I think we live in a fundamentally changes society where political apathy is quickly becoming a thing of the past in favor of extreme division and constant outrage. I have no doubt that turnout for 2020 will eclipse the last 3 presidential elections, which were all anecdotally impressive as compared to the ones that came before it.

Also, with Clinton in ‘92, he did not stand for anything and had anything but a clear message. He was frankly guided by getting nothing more than his expected share of the vote while Bush lost a tremendous number of voters to Ross Perot (19%). He was a victor of circumstance.


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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
PostPosted: Thu March 14, 2019 8:38 pm 
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I wonder if his decision to cut Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security and food stamps will affect how his base votes.

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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
PostPosted: Thu March 14, 2019 8:44 pm 
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Trump Warns: It Would Be ‘Very Bad’ if My Police, Biker Gang Fans Decided to Get ‘Tough’ on My Opponents

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President Trump issued a bizarre, indirect warning Monday that his supporters could get “tough” on his political enemies at a “certain point,” in a clip of a Breitbart interview spotted Thursday by The Toronto Star. “You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny,” the president told Breibart’s Matthew Boyle. “I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump–I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough—until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad.”

Literally the entire article so you don't even need to click. Hell, I hesitate to call it an article.


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liebzz wrote:
Also, with Clinton in ‘92, he did not stand for anything and had anything but a clear message. He was frankly guided by getting nothing more than his expected share of the vote while Bush lost a tremendous number of voters to Ross Perot (19%). He was a victor of circumstance.


Lots of studies have uncovered evidence that seems to debunk the "Perot myth" in the past few years. There's probably something to the idea that Perot stole momentum and mucked up the either/or that comes from a two-party election, but any measurable metric points to Perot pulling from Clinton and Bush supporters nearly equally.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/th ... erot-myth/

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&source= ... 2597389294

https://caffeinatedthoughts.com/2016/06 ... oss-perot/

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Trump Warns: It Would Be ‘Very Bad’ if My Police, Biker Gang Fans Decided to Get ‘Tough’ on My Opponents

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President Trump issued a bizarre, indirect warning Monday that his supporters could get “tough” on his political enemies at a “certain point,” in a clip of a Breitbart interview spotted Thursday by The Toronto Star. “You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny,” the president told Breibart’s Matthew Boyle. “I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump–I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough—until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad.”

Literally the entire article so you don't even need to click. Hell, I hesitate to call it an article.

So basically he’s physically threatening anyone that runs against him.

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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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Like, holy shit
bune wrote:
Trump Warns: It Would Be ‘Very Bad’ if My Police, Biker Gang Fans Decided to Get ‘Tough’ on My Opponents

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President Trump issued a bizarre, indirect warning Monday that his supporters could get “tough” on his political enemies at a “certain point,” in a clip of a Breitbart interview spotted Thursday by The Toronto Star. “You know, the left plays a tougher game, it’s very funny,” the president told Breibart’s Matthew Boyle. “I actually think that the people on the right are tougher, but they don’t play it tougher. Okay? I can tell you I have the support of the police, the support of the military, the support of the Bikers for Trump–I have the tough people, but they don’t play it tough—until they go to a certain point, and then it would be very bad, very bad.”

Literally the entire article so you don't even need to click. Hell, I hesitate to call it an article.


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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
PostPosted: Thu March 14, 2019 10:30 pm 
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That’s one of the most disgusting things a sitting president has ever said. But the reality is, Dems would be idiots if they ignored it.
He’s going for tactics never seen before so his opponent can’t counter. Hello campaign shock and awe.
He simply gets to say ‘fake news’ when he gets accused of it.
Dems need to construct a response to this. One that isn’t just playing him saying it in an ad. Can they though?
Interesting times indeed.


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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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President shares a link to the front page of Breitbart with no context (?):


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covfefe time


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Simple Torture wrote:
President shares a link to the front page of Breitbart with no context (?):



Deleted now, but:

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I picture him having someone actually type out his tweets for him. Just sitting there next to him while he spews out "Sad!" after every sentence. And then, every once in a while, the tweeter goes to the bathroom, and he pushes some buttons and here we are.

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Jexodus.

It’s like an exodus, but this time for Jews.


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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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That reminds me. How did Blexit go? I never looked up the score.


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 Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
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Trump has incited violence again and again. It's really fucking despicable. He has blood on his hands.


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i'm going to top it off before he starts talking in a few minutes....


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round 2


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