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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Thu November 23, 2017 7:05 pm
Mind Your Tanners
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dimejinky99 wrote:
This net neutrality thing is really worrying. All my pals in the US are usually all really clued in and active about stuff like this yet I’m seeing nothing on my social media timelines either from them or generally anyone. I’d have thought there’d be huge outcry and moves against this happening and I’m barely seeing anything on twitter or fb about it.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 24, 2017 12:55 am
NEVER STOP JAMMING!
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i hope they unseal the charges for DJT Jr on Xmas Day
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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 24, 2017 2:18 pm
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McParadigm wrote:
He’s a proven liar and traitor, but now he’s on our side!
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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 24, 2017 2:26 pm
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that’s how DC works
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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 24, 2017 2:29 pm
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96583UP wrote:
that’s how DC works
Home sweet home. In order to avoid the corrupt swamp of DC this thanksgiving, I went to New Orleans. #borken
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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 24, 2017 2:36 pm
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It's interesting to wonder who and what Mueller is confident enough Flynn can give him, that he's willing to accept a plea deal and reduced charges on what seem to be some pretty significant crimes.
It's not like they toss those deals around on a whim. Flynn would have had to demonstrate the value of his cooperation for the feds to even consider it.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 24, 2017 2:41 pm
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McParadigm wrote:
It's interesting to wonder who and what Mueller is confident enough Flynn can give him, that he's willing to accept a plea deal and reduced charges on what seem to be some pretty significant crimes.
It's not like they toss those deals around on a whim. Flynn would have had to demonstrate the value of his cooperation for the feds to even consider it.
Maybe he’s finally doing something right and admitting his crimes to save his kid from jail. Or maybe someone offered a sweet deal on a timeshare in Boca in exchange for his testimony.
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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 24, 2017 2:54 pm
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or maybe the POTUS is a traitor and will be convicted and hanged
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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri November 24, 2017 2:54 pm
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Bi_3 wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
It's interesting to wonder who and what Mueller is confident enough Flynn can give him, that he's willing to accept a plea deal and reduced charges on what seem to be some pretty significant crimes.
It's not like they toss those deals around on a whim. Flynn would have had to demonstrate the value of his cooperation for the feds to even consider it.
Maybe he’s finally doing something right and admitting his crimes to save his kid from jail. Or maybe someone offered a sweet deal on a timeshare in Boca in exchange for his testimony.
It seems pretty likely that he's trying to save his kid. However, the fact that his legal team was working with the White House, and that his deal necessitates a discontinuance of that, suggests that whatever he is confirming directly relates to the White House's potential legal exposure.
It seems like common sense that they don't accept a plea deal on a case they think they have any chance at winning, unless the deal gets them a bigger fish...not merely an easier carving of the fish they already have.
First, what is a joint defense agreement? A joint defense agreement is a pact among attorneys for multiple targets or subjects in a criminal case in which they agree to share information. The agreement may be written or unwritten. Any joint defense agreement will be defined by its explicit terms, but generally, under such an agreement, attorneys have a duty to keep the confidences of all of the clients covered by the agreement. The attorneys also have a duty to avoid conflicts of interest as to any of the clients. The attorneys can compare notes, allocate work efficiently by dividing tasks and avoiding duplication, and develop a unified strategy.
But what does it mean if Flynn has decided to withdraw from the defense agreement? It could mean that he and his attorney have decided that his interests have diverged from the other members of the agreement. Perhaps Flynn and his attorney have decided to pursue a different strategy. For example, they may decide against voluntarily turning over documents and instead to litigate disclosure issues in court. But such details can usually be worked out within the defense team. For that reason, it seems more likely that Flynn has withdrawn from the agreement because he has decided to cooperate with Mueller to provide truthful information and possibly testimony in exchange for leniency for any crimes of which he is convicted.
Recent reports suggest that Flynn has significant exposure to criminal prosecution. Mueller effectively fired a shot against Flynn’s bow when he charged Paul Manafort with violating the Foreign Agent Registration Act, among other offenses. Similarly, reports say that Flynn belatedly filed notice with the Department of Justice regarding his own lobbying work for the government of Turkey. Even more concerning, other reports indicate that Flynn participated in meetings to discuss the kidnapping and rendition to Turkey of cleric Fethullah Gulen from his refuge in Pennsylvania. Gulen is a rival of Turkish president Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
The congressional testimony of former acting Attorney General Sally Yates in May provides further evidence of criminal exposure for Flynn. Her testimony about Flynn’s contacts with Russians suggest that his conversations may have been intercepted by a wiretap authorized by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court. This surveillance could yield a great deal of incriminating information about Flynn and his contacts with Russia on behalf of the Trump team. Yates was careful to protect classified information during her testimony, so we do not know all of the details about his conversations, but Yates testified that she was concerned that Flynn was “compromised.” If so, he could be charged with acting as an agent of a foreign government while serving as a U.S. government official.
If, in fact, Flynn is cooperating, this development could be very significant for Mueller’s investigation. As a member of the foreign policy team on Trump’s presidential campaign, he likely has information about any contacts with the Russian government by members of the campaign. Flynn may be able to provide the crucial links between all of the disparate pieces of evidence that have come to light to date – the June 2016 meeting with Russians to obtain disparaging information about Hillary Clinton, the overtures for meetings with George Papadopoulos, the travels of Carter Page. A cooperator is often disliked by a jury because of his own crimes, but if his testimony can be corroborated by other independent evidence, such as telephone records, bank records or surveillance recordings, then he can become a powerful narrator who can pull together the pieces of the story in a way that makes sense.
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