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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri October 20, 2017 9:23 pm
AnalLog
Joined: Fri January 04, 2013 8:54 pm Posts: 1460
BurtReynolds wrote:
Oh I'm not even gonna read the last five pages.
Great choice. What a jumbled mess of an argument trag was trying to push.
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Your argument would hold a lot more water if we didn't live in a society that consistently punishes women who come forward about sexual assault. Creating a world that punishes them for coming forward, and then putting the moral responsibility on their shoulders to do so anyway, is absurd.
solid end to trags argument, but I doubt he's finished yet.
You guys are absurd. Sometimes being a good person means making a difficult choice, like the one between protecting your friend's feelings and protecting other women from rape. And I'm not even saying that HAS to be the path taken; just that it may hold moral merit. Your unwillingness to see that, and to equate any sort of questioning with victim blaming makes you look like one-dimensional caricatures of the liberal/feminist men you strive to be.
And I would argue that your inability to see that we aren't doing that by any stretch makes you look like a tone def, ignorant, misogynist at best.
There absolutely should be a conversation about how victims of abuse should or should not speak and about processing their abuse and the best way for us to support and help those people. That is a valuable conversation. I haven't seen anyone here argue otherwise.
Your argument would hold a lot more water if we didn't live in a society that consistently punishes women who come forward about sexual assault. Creating a world that punishes them for coming forward, and then putting the moral responsibility on their shoulders to do so anyway, is absurd.
Punishing and/or discrediting/demonizing them, yes. Well said.
Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Fri October 20, 2017 10:04 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14224
A lynch mob is still a lynch mob, even when its target is guilty.
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Post subject: Re: The 45th POTUS - Donald J. Trump
Posted: Sat October 21, 2017 12:14 pm
Looks Like a Cat
Joined: Wed April 20, 2016 7:11 pm Posts: 14224
McParadigm wrote:
Steve Bannon is speaking.
He could make a fortune as the "before" on a proactiv infomercial.
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