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Author:  Lament [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:25 am ]
Post subject:  Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: JENNY LEWIS HITMEN WIN!

The Official Jose Canseco Steroid Era (1986-2005) WhatIf Tournament

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DETAILS

This tournament will include all seasons from 1986-2005. The links to our previous tournaments for those who aren't familiar with all of this are below.

Post-Strike Tournament : http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4441
All-Time Franchise Tournament I: http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=4546
LCS Era Tournament: http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=5143
Integration Era Tournament: http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6243
All-Time Franchise Tournament II: http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=6541

DRAFT GUIDELINES

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1. There will be 25 rounds of picks. Each team needs at least 12 position players (C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, three OFs, and four utility players of any position as designated by the site) and 6 pitchers.

2. A player can only appear on one team, even though you ultimately decide on a single season for them. So for instance, whoever picks Pedro Martinez gets whichever Steroid Era Martinez season he wants, and no one else can take a different one. You don't have to decide which season of theirs you want until we begin the tournament, though.

3. You need to pick and designate a home ballpark, since the site takes that into consideration in its simulations.

4. Each person has two hours to make their picks. The clock is suspended between 10PM & 8AM Eastern time. Picks can still be made in that window, but people whose clocks start AFTER 10 can't be skipped until the clock starts again (If you are on the clock before 10, even if it is 9:59, you will be skipped after two hours). We do still strongly encourage you to send a few proxy picks to someone who isn't picking again until after you before you head to bed.

5. If your turn comes up and you're still on the hook for a previous pick where your time ran out, you'll receive a one hour slot instead of two. If you're on the hook for two picks and your turn comes up a third time, you'll be skipped instantly till you return and pick. Once you catch up, you're back to the standard two hours. This means if you have bookend picks (at either end) and you don't pick by the time your two hours are up for the first one, you get another hour (for your second one) before you are completely skipped over.


SEASON GUIDELINES:

1. We will have a regular season before the tournament. Everyone will play everyone else ten times, five times at home and five times on the road.

2. The playoffs will be best-of-seven series. We will use the same rules about pitching rotations/rest as we did in the every other tournament. You will have the option to start someone on two games' rest twice during the playoffs. You will have the option to do it four times during the regular season as well (where the same three games' rest rule applies). A pitcher CANNOT start on two games' rest in consecutive starts. He needs a full three games before he can start again after starting on short rest. Rotations will reset at the All-Star break and the start of the playoffs.

3. The top three teams in the standings at the end of the season will make the playoffs. Tie-breakers for the third spot will be settled via play-in game. These games are considered part of the regular season, so pitchers in them are subjected to regular season rest restrictions. Tie-breakers for the other spots will be based on head-to-head record. If the teams split their meetings, the tie will be broken by whoever had the better record against the highest seeded team overall (this will carry down in the standings until the tie is broken). The second and third place teams will play a best-of-seven series for the right to face the first place team in the World Series.[/spoiler]

Spreadsheet link: https://www.dropbox.com/s/1s84m09sc4pcujx/blank%2060%20game%20sheet.xls?dl=0

DRAFT RESULTS

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Lament (User name: Lament, Team name: Jenny Lewis Hitmen, Home stadium: Comiskey Park)
1. Barry Bonds
16. Dennis Eckersley
17. Mariano Rivera
32. Eric Gagne
33. Billy Wagner
48. Randy Myers
49. Jason Schmidt
64. Pascual Perez
65. Derek Lowe
80. Carlos Baerga
81. Mike Schmidt
96. Rich Aurilia
97. Darren Daulton
112. Scott Garrelts
113. Frank Thomas
128. Tim Salmon
129. Mark Buehrle
143. Ray Lankford
144. Robin Ventura
161. Chris Hoiles
162. Willie Randolph
176. George Bell
177. Ellis Burks
199. Dante Bichette
200. Ozzie Guillen


CopperTom (User name: CopperTom, Team name: Say No To Drugs, Home stadium: Turner Field)
2. Greg Maddux
15. Johan Santana
18. Ivan Rodriguez
31. Craig Biggio
34. Kirby Puckett
47. Kevin Millwood
50. Ben Sheets
63. Jason Giambi
66. Kenny Lofton
79. Andruw Jones
82. Miguel Tejada
95. Terry Pendleton
98. Rafael Furcal
111. Brad Lidge
114. Rob Dibble
127. Tim Burke
130. Jay Bell
145. Edgar Martinez
146. Gabe White
159. Chris Carpenter
160. Rheal Cormier
175. Paul O'Neill
178. Gregg Jeffries
189. Lance Johnson
191. Mickey Tettleton

TBAMTS (User name: c_lars87, Team Name: Sabo's Goggles, Home stadium: Riverfront Stadium)
3. Pedro Martinez
14. Rickey Henderson
19. Roberto Alomar
30. Dwight Gooden
35. Barry Larkin
46. Gary Sheffield
51. Orel Hershiser
62. Jeff Bagwell
67. Jimmy Key
78. Eric Davis
83. Andre Dawson
94. Jorge Posada
99. Juan Gonzalez
110. Paul Molitor
115. Mark Davis
126. Joe Nathan
131. Tim Hudson
142. Victor Martinez
147. Dave Righetti
158. Michael Young
163. Jeff Nelson
174. David Justice
179. Chris Sabo
190. Mike Hampton
193. Julio Franco

phil (User name: joemaximus, Team Name: Phil City Pritchards, Home stadium: Jarry Park)
4. Randy Johnson
13. Mike Piazza
20. Kevin Brown
29. Scott Rolen
36. Nomar Garciaparra
45. Luis Gonzalez
52. Mark Prior
61. Darin Erstad
68. Ryne Sandberg
77. Mike Mussina
84. Duane Ward
93. John Wetteland
100. Jim Edmonds
109. Rod Beck
116. David Cone
125. John Olerud
132. Chuck Knoblauch
141. Carlos Beltran
148. Lance Berkman
157. Brian Giles
164. Mike Sweeney
173. Jason Isringhausen
180. Edgar Renteria
192. Vince Coleman
194. Tom Henke

skitchP (User name: SkitchP, Team name: SkitchPvsRHP/SkitchPvsLHP, Home stadium: Coors Field)
5. Roger Clemens
12. Cal Ripken, Jr.
21. Sammy Sosa
28. Larry Walker
37. Chipper Jones
44. Mark McGwire
53. Jose Rijo
60. Pat Hentgen
69. Mark Langston
76. Kevin Mitchell
85. Bret Boone
92. Brady Anderson
101. Jim Thome
108. Jeff Montgomery
117. Octavio Dotel
124. Justin Thompson
133. Mark Gubicza
140. Howard Johnson
149. Robin Yount
156. Dontrelle Willis
165. Rick Wilkins
172. Lou Whitaker
181. Jason Kendall
188. Mark Eichorn
195. Kerry Wood


chud (User name: pnclarke, Team Name: The Chudville Nine, Home stadum: PNC Park)
6. Alex Rodriguez
11. Teddy Higuera
22. Ken Griffey, Jr.
27. Adrian Beltre
38. Tony Gwynn
43. Curt Schilling
54. Roy Halladay
59. Tim Raines
70. Vlad Guerrero
75. Jason Varitek
86. Chase Utley
91. Nolan Ryan
102. Tom Gordon
107. Jake Peavy
118. John Franco
123. Norm Charlton
134. Ozzie Smith
139. Bartolo Colon
150. Will Clark
155. Fred McGriff
166. Gary Gaetti
171. Joe Carter
182. Steve Bedrosian
187. Mike Schooler
196. Jose Mesa

Argo (User name: argonaut645, Team name: Argonauts, Home stadium: Yankee Stadium)
7. John Smoltz
10. Brett Saberhagen
23. Ichiro
26. Albert Pujols
39. Trevor Hoffman
42. Fernando Valenzuela
55. Jeff Kent
58. Derek Jeter
71. Ken Caminiti
74. Hideo Nomo
87. Derrek Lee
90. Javy Lopez
103. Rob Nen
106. Bernie Williams
119. Arthur Rhodes
122. Carlos Delgado
135. Doug Jones
138. Carl Crawford
151. Jesse Orosco
154. Alfonso Soriano
167. Paul Lo Duca
170. Jeff Cirillo
183. Carlos Guillen
186. Juan Pierre
197. Odalis Perez

numbers (User name: somenumbers, Team name: Chud Loves Schill, Home stadium: Minute Maid Park)
8. Mike Scott
9. Albert Belle
24. Tom Glavine
25. Manny Ramirez
40. Wade Boggs
41. Francisco Rodriguez
56. Kevin Appier
57. Todd Helton
72. Andy Petitte
73. Jose Canseco
88. Todd Hundley
89. Alan Trammell
104. John Valentin
105. Keith Foulke
120. Barry Zito
121. Lenny Dykstra
136. Troy Glaus
137. Jeff Reardon
152. Bob Welch
153. Mo Vaughn
168. BJ Ryan
169. Dale Murphy
184. Kelly Gruber
185. Mike Myers
198. Terry Steinbach


ROTATION/SIM NOTES

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Say No To Drugs:
Maddux (R)
Santana (L)
Sheets (R)
Millwood (R)

SkitchP:
Clemens (R)
Langston (L)
Rijo (R)
Gubicza (R)

2GR: Clemens (24), Langston (37), Clemens (64)

Phil City Pritchards:
Johnson (L)
Brown (R)
Prior (R)
Mussina (R)

The Chudville Nine:
Halladay (R)
Ryan (R)
Higuera (L)
Peavy (R)

Argonauts:
Smoltz (R)
Saberhagen (R)
Valenzuela (L)
Nomo (R)
Perez (L)

Sabo's Goggles:
Martinez (R)
Hampton (L)
Hudson (R)
Gooden (R)

Chud Loves Schill:
Scott (R)
Glavine (L)
Appier (R)
Pettitte (L)

Jenny Lewis Hitmen:
Garrelts (R)
Perez (R)
Lowe (R)
Jackson (L)

2GR: Garrelts (64)


SCHEDULE/RESULTS
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DAY ONE
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=838933#p838933

DAY TWO
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=839363#p839363

DAY THREE
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=839882#p839882

DAY FOUR
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=840484#p840484

DAY FIVE
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=840932#p840932

DAY SIX
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=841368#p841368

DAY SEVEN
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=841916#p841916

DAY EIGHT
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=842483#p842483

DAY NINE
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=842800#p842800

DAY TEN
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=843082#p843082

DAY ELEVEN
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=843205#p843205

DAY TWELVE
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=843404#p843404

DAY THIRTEEN
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=843566#p843566

DAY FOURTEEN
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=843758#p843758

DAY FIFTEEN
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=844220#p844220

DAY SIXTEEN
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=844872#p844872

DAY SEVENTEEN
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=845515#p845515

DAY EIGHTEEN
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=847082#p847082

DAY NINETEEN
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=847910#p847910

DAY TWENTY
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=848357#p848357

DAY TWENTY-ONE
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=849063#p849063

DAY TWENTY-TWO
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=849791#p849791

DAY TWENTY-THREE
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=850300#p850300

DAY TWENTY-FOUR
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=850931#p850931

DAY TWENTY-FIVE
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=851503#p851503

DAY TWENTY-SIX
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=851927#p851927

DAY TWENTY-SEVEN
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=852301#p852301

DAY TWENTY-EIGHT
http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/viewtopic.php?p=852832#p852832


FINAL STANDINGS
Sabo’s Goggles 43-27**
Say No To Drugs 41-29*
Jenny Lewis Hitmen 40-30*
SkitchP 38-32
Phil City Pritchards 37-33
The Chudville Nine 28-42
Argonauts 27-43
Chud Loves Schill 26-44

** - Clinched World Series spot/Regular Season Champions
* - Clinched playoff spot

POSTSEASON

SEMIFINALS
(2) Say No To Drugs vs. (3) Jenny Lewis Hitmen
(Jenny Lewis Hitmen win series, 4-2)

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Game 1: Jenny Lewis Hitmen 4, Say No To Drugs 2 (11 innings)
https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscore.aspx?gid=7513168&pid=0&pbp=0&tf=0

Game 2: Say No To Drugs 9, Jenny Lewis Hitmen 5
https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscore.aspx?gid=7515160&pid=0&pbp=0&tf=0

Game 3: Jenny Lewis Hitmen 3, Say No To Drugs 2 (14 innings)
https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscore.aspx?gid=7515922&pid=0&pbp=0&tf=0

Game 4: Say No To Drugs 8, Jenny Lewis Hitmen 7
https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscore.aspx?gid=7517474&pid=0&pbp=0&tf=0

Game 5: Jenny Lewis Hitmen 6, Say No To Drugs 3
https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscore.aspx?gid=7519559&pid=0&pbp=0&tf=0

Game 6: Jenny Lewis Hitmen 5, Say No To Drugs 0
https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscore.aspx?gid=7522379&pid=0&pbp=0&tf=0

WORLD SERIES
(1) Sabo's Goggles vs. (3) Jenny Lewis Hitmen
(Jenny Lewis Hitmen win series, 4-1)

Spoiler: show
Game 1: Sabo's Goggles 3, Jenny Lewis Hitmen 2
https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscore.aspx?gid=7525341&pid=0&pbp=0&tf=0

Game 2: Jenny Lewis Hitmen 7, Sabo's Goggles 2
https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscore.aspx?gid=7526621&pid=0&pbp=0&tf=0

Game 3: Jenny Lewis Hitmen 2, Sabo's Goggles 0
https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscore.aspx?gid=7528488&pid=0&pbp=0&tf=0

Game 4: Jenny Lewis Hitmen 8, Sabo's Goggles 6
https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscore.aspx?gid=7531959&pid=0&pbp=0&tf=0

Game 5: Jenny Lewis Hitmen 9, Sabo's Goggles 8
https://www.whatifsports.com/slb/Boxscore.aspx?gid=7534153&pid=0&pbp=0&tf=0

Author:  lennytheweedwhacker [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

thanks, but i think i'll pass

Author:  cutuphalfdead [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

Author:  Lament [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:39 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
thanks, but i think i'll pass


But I signed up for your NFL Death Pool. Isn't it only fair that you sign up for this?

cutuphalfdead wrote:
yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss


Now is good time to revisit the trades/waiver debate.

Also, if the league is only eight teams, I may switch up the two games per day format. With a small enough league it might be feasible to do a three game series every day.

Author:  lennytheweedwhacker [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

i just don't have the will to carry through...i'm sorry, lament :|

Author:  The Argonaut [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

Thanks, Lament.

Author:  cutuphalfdead [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

This might be too wild an idea for you folk, but what if instead of repeating post strike era, we do a "steroid era" and define it 1985-2005?

Author:  The Argonaut [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:44 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

That's a cool idea.

Author:  cutuphalfdead [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:46 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

Or we can put it on deck for a future tournament.

Author:  Lament [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:48 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

The Argonaut wrote:
Thanks, Lament.


I could never break a promise to chud.

cutuphalfdead wrote:
This might be too wild an idea for you folk, but what if instead of repeating post strike era, we do a "steroid era" and define it 1985-2005?


I'm glad you said this. I had been thinking about trying to frame a similar time period in a different way to keep it from being essentially the same pool of players as last time. "Steroid Era" is better than anything I came up with (my best suggestion was gonna end up being just straight-up decades, and doing either the 90s or 00s). I'm 100% down with this.

Author:  cutuphalfdead [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:49 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

I chose those years because MLB started testing for real in 2006, and 1985 gives us a nice 20 year window that includes the late 80s with the clearly roided out bash brothers teams.

Author:  Lament [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
i just don't have the will to carry through...i'm sorry, lament :|


It's ok, lenny. We'll always have Dr Pepper.

Author:  cutuphalfdead [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:50 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

1986-2005 would be 20 years, so maybe that.

Author:  Lament [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

Canseco was a rookie in 1986, right? Seems like starting it in 1986 could be a nice tribute to him. I can't think of any pre-Canseco juicers off the top of my head.

Author:  Lament [ Mon November 07, 2016 1:57 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

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I hereby officially dub this the Jose Canseco Steroid Era (1986-2005) WhatIf Tournament.

Author:  Mecca [ Mon November 07, 2016 2:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: 2016 Post-Strike Tournament: Sign Up

Lament wrote:
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I hereby officially dub this the Jose Canseco Steroid Era (1986-2005) WhatIf Tournament.

:hooray:

Author:  CopperTom [ Mon November 07, 2016 12:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Sign Up

I haven't had data at work lately. Will I be able to text my picks to someone while I'm at work?

Author:  philpritchard [ Mon November 07, 2016 2:22 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Sign Up

I want this to start right now.

Author:  spike [ Mon November 07, 2016 6:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Sign Up

i hope 1996 brady anderson is the number one pick

Author:  cutuphalfdead [ Mon November 07, 2016 7:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: Sign Up

CopperTom wrote:
I haven't had data at work lately. Will I be able to text my picks to someone while I'm at work?

of course

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