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Post subject: Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: DAY FOURTEEN RESULTS
Posted: Tue November 29, 2016 3:07 am
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@SkitchP wrote:
Lament wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
Year change is one party making their own move. There is no consenting party. No strategy.
Waiving a player is one party making their own move without a consenting party as well, though.
Right, but there's some risk. Let's say you cut buerle. He becomes my 3rd starter. You've risked improving my team.
which is another reason why year changes shouldn't be part of this
If phil drops shitty Randy Johnson some other team shouldn't be able to get unhittable Randy Johnson as a result. You have a situation where the player in question is significantly more valuable to everyone but the team who is dropping him.
Post subject: Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: DAY FOURTEEN RESULTS
Posted: Tue November 29, 2016 3:09 am
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@SkitchP wrote:
Lament wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
Year change is one party making their own move. There is no consenting party. No strategy.
Waiving a player is one party making their own move without a consenting party as well, though.
Right, but there's some risk. Let's say you cut buerle. He becomes my 3rd starter. You've risked improving my team.
Let's say I take 2001 Buehrle with his five-and-change ERA and swap him for 2005 Mark Buehrle. There's just as much of a chance he goes from a serviceable but risky #3/#4 starter to an absolute disaster as there is that he suddenly becomes a consistent #2. So there's risk involved there too.
Post subject: Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: DAY FOURTEEN RESULTS
Posted: Tue November 29, 2016 3:10 am
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Lament wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
Lament wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
Year change is one party making their own move. There is no consenting party. No strategy.
Waiving a player is one party making their own move without a consenting party as well, though.
Right, but there's some risk. Let's say you cut buerle. He becomes my 3rd starter. You've risked improving my team.
Let's say I take 2001 Buehrle with his five-and-change ERA and swap him for 2005 Mark Buehrle. There's just as much of a chance he goes from a serviceable but risky #3/#4 starter to an absolute disaster as there is that he suddenly becomes a consistent #2. So there's risk involved there too.
Unless you have previous data to inform your decision.
Post subject: Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: DAY FOURTEEN RESULTS
Posted: Tue November 29, 2016 3:13 am
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
Lament wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
Lament wrote:
@SkitchP wrote:
Year change is one party making their own move. There is no consenting party. No strategy.
Waiving a player is one party making their own move without a consenting party as well, though.
Right, but there's some risk. Let's say you cut buerle. He becomes my 3rd starter. You've risked improving my team.
Let's say I take 2001 Buehrle with his five-and-change ERA and swap him for 2005 Mark Buehrle. There's just as much of a chance he goes from a serviceable but risky #3/#4 starter to an absolute disaster as there is that he suddenly becomes a consistent #2. So there's risk involved there too.
Unless you have previous data to inform your decision.
I'm not sure I follow as to why having previous information makes a difference. We had previous information on like 90% of these players going into the tournament.
Post subject: Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: DAY FOURTEEN RESULTS
Posted: Tue November 29, 2016 3:16 am
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Does anybody even plan on waiving/trading/year-swapping if the option is available? Or are we just arguing over moves that no one in this tournament is even going to make?
Post subject: Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: DAY FOURTEEN RESULTS
Posted: Tue November 29, 2016 3:17 am
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Lament wrote:
Does anybody even plan on waiving/trading/year-swapping if the option is available? Or are we just arguing over moves that no one in this tournament is even going to make?
We should really decide before we know what people plan to do.
Post subject: Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: DAY FOURTEEN RESULTS
Posted: Tue November 29, 2016 3:17 am
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Lament wrote:
Does anybody even plan on waiving/trading/year-swapping if the option is available? Or are we just arguing over moves that no one in this tournament is even going to make?
Phil would be insane to keep his Randy Johnson. I planned on doing something on the waiver wire for sure.
Post subject: Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: DAY FOURTEEN RESULTS
Posted: Tue November 29, 2016 3:27 am
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Was one of them "This Cuban exile's disastrous game seven start in 2002 cost the greatest player of his generation his best chance at winning a World Series ring and his manager Dusty Baker should never live down the decision to start him"?
Post subject: Re: Steroid Era (1986-2005) Tournament: DAY FOURTEEN RESULTS
Posted: Tue November 29, 2016 3:32 am
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For shame.
I saw Kirk Reuter a couple of months ago and I really wanted to go up to him and be like "Seriously though, how the fuck did you not start game seven?"
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