Trout is about as close as anyone.

What if he ends his career today though? If he plays 5 more years, even average years, sure, but if he retires today? I don't know. Well, and he wouldn't be eligible (MLB requires 10 seasons)

He's one of those "absolutely insane peak" guys I mentioned earlier. Aside from roided-out Bonds, he's easily the most dominant player any of us has ever watched.

Hey! Don't forget Miggy. His numbers are insane. 9 of 14 seasons in the top 10 for MVP voting, AND, he slowly cut the strike outs down over his career. If Trout can do that, look out.
from a pure hitting statistic standpoint? arguing Trout vs Miggy is almost like the Aaron vs Mays debate, cant go wrong with any of those 4
https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... mi01.shtml

Will T.O. make it in before Randy Moss, who is eligible this year?

Also, what are your thoughts on Ronde Barber? He is the only player in NFL history with over 40 interceptions and 20 sacks. I'm biased because I'm a Bucs fan, but he's got the career to get in, right?

He certainly should be in contention. I get the feeling that John Lynch is the next Buc in line, though.

As for TO and Moss, I've always contended that they're Hall of Famers, but not first balloters due to their on-field/locker room issues that caused them to hop teams. I'll have to review that when we get the list of finalists or semifinalists to see if I still feel the same way about Moss.

Finally, if I may inject my own bias, I will be very pissed if the Contributors committee does not nominate Pat Bowlen next week. The longer he waits, the higher odds that he won't remember it due to Alzheimer's. He should have been nominated last year alongside Jerry Jones and going in the same time as TD, but the committee had to instead push a failed bid for Paul Tagliabue, ugh.

TO should be in the hall of fame.

Randy should be first ballot hall of fame no question.

I whole heartily agree about Moss.

Yeah, Lynch has been on the ballot for a couple of years already, though. And while his career was awesome, I'm not sure his numbers stack up to Barber's. For that reason I see Barber getting in first. I'll have to look at their numbers again, though.

Ive been thinking and decided Beltre is an easy yes and I was wrong for ever thinking otherwise.

Statistically, Moss is the second best wide receiver ever. He's a first ballot guy for sure.

TO will get in this time.

I really hope Urlacher doesn't get in on first ballot.

One of the most overrated players in NFL history.

~1,300 total tackles, just 41.5 sacks and only created 34 turnovers

I'm not saying he was bad, he was pretty good. But people talk about him like he was a fucking god.

There's a small glimmer of hope from the "played hard, played the right way" camp, but not enough to push him across the finish line. I dunno what the injury is exactly, but I hope that if he needs surgery or something, he does it right away as opposed to trying rehab and trying to get back this year.