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Rodgers, Brady, and Manning are above him in 2 out of 3 of those categories, and besides a few outliers (like Chad Pennington in comp.%) you're looking at the best of the best in the pass-happy era. If you wanted to argue Romo in, you'd basically be making a case similar to Terrell Davis.
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Simple Torture wrote:
If you wanted to argue Romo in, you'd basically be making a case similar to Terrell Davis.
How so? The the big pro for Davis was dominating postseason performances that resulted in two rings, with the con being that he had a short career. Romo's a bit of the opposite: a longish, steady career of above average performance, but notoriously subpar playoff performances.
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Green Habit wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
If you wanted to argue Romo in, you'd basically be making a case similar to Terrell Davis.
How so? The the big pro for Davis was dominating postseason performances that resulted in two rings, with the con being that he had a short career. Romo's a bit of the opposite: a longish, steady career of above average performance, but notoriously subpar playoff performances.
To clarify: I'm imagining the case someone would have to make; I don't think he's in, ever. But I do think it'd be a similar case, just not exactly the same: yeah, his career was longer, but QBs tend to have longer careers than running backs anyways. And he was cut down by injuries right after his career-best season and a dominating playoff performance. If Dez Bryant catches that ball, I think the conversation might be different.
If you wanted to argue Romo in, you'd basically be making a case similar to Terrell Davis.
How so? The the big pro for Davis was dominating postseason performances that resulted in two rings, with the con being that he had a short career. Romo's a bit of the opposite: a longish, steady career of above average performance, but notoriously subpar playoff performances.
To clarify: I'm imagining the case someone would have to make; I don't think he's in, ever. But I do think it'd be a similar case, just not exactly the same: yeah, his career was longer, but QBs tend to have longer careers than running backs anyways. And he was cut down by injuries right after his career-best season and a dominating playoff performance. If Dez Bryant catches that ball, I think the conversation might be different.
Dez did the catch that ball and the conversation should be different.
So it goes.
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the NFL HoF is a joke.
Brian Mitchell hasn't even sniffed it, and he is number 2 all time, in combined all purpose yards behind only Jerry Rice (who played 6 or 7 more seasons.)
Don't even give me the argument he did it on special teams. the number of records he holds on special teams is insane.
Combined kickoff and punt return yards: 19,013 Combined kickoff and punt returns: 1,070 Kickoff return yards: 14,014 Kickoff returns: 607 Punt return yards: 4,999 Punt returns: 463 Fair catches: 231 Fair catches in a single season(2000): 33 All-purpose yards by any player against a single opponent: 3,076 against the Dallas Cowboys Kickoff return yards in postseason: 875 Kickoff returns in postseason: 36 Punt return yards in postseason: 339 Punt returns in postseason: 34-tied with David Meggett Combined return yards in postseason: 1,214 Combined returns in postseason: 70 Games with 100 all purpose yards: 118 Games with 200 all purpose yards: 15 All-purpose yards on Sunday games only: 20,818 All-purpose yards in a single decade (1990–1999): 16,905 Combined return yards on Sunday games only: 16,957 Most rushing yards in a game by a player with 3 attempts or less: 105, on 2 attempts; 10/1/2000 Oldest player to have an 85+ yard run: 32 years, 44 days
As of right now, he's an easy no. But he's got a hell of a peak under his belt and at this point probably just needs to do some compiling for a bunch of years.
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philpritchard wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
Max Scherzer
As of right now, he's an easy no. But he's got a hell of a peak under his belt and at this point probably just needs to do some compiling for a bunch of years.
If he keeps this going for another 2 or 3 years beyond this season, he's got that 7 year peak that everyone likes in a HoFer. I think he's closer than you're giving him credit for.
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