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Morten Andersen Tony Boselli Isaac Bruce Don Coryell Terrell Davis Brian Dawkins Alan Faneca Joe Jacoby Ty Law John Lynch Kevin Mawae Terrell Owens Jason Taylor LaDainian Tomlinson Kurt Warner
I'll take TD, LDT, Warner, Bruce and Taylor. Who you got?
To me, Utley's an easy yes. He's right up there with Biggio, Alomar, and Sandberg, although with less longevity and a much better peak.
Unfortunately, he doesn't have all the traditional numbers and milestones that voters are normally looking for. So I'm guessing he falls somewhere in the Jeff Kent borderline area.
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philpritchard wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
What about Chase Utley?
To me, Utley's an easy yes. He's right up there with Biggio, Alomar, and Sandberg, although with less longevity and a much better peak.
Unfortunately, he doesn't have all the traditional numbers and milestones that voters are normally looking for. So I'm guessing he falls somewhere in the Jeff Kent borderline area.
That's how I feel. I mean, just look at JAWS for second basemen. But for me Utley is an easy yes while Kent is a big maybe.
To me, Utley's an easy yes. He's right up there with Biggio, Alomar, and Sandberg, although with less longevity and a much better peak.
Unfortunately, he doesn't have all the traditional numbers and milestones that voters are normally looking for. So I'm guessing he falls somewhere in the Jeff Kent borderline area.
That's how I feel. I mean, just look at JAWS for second basemen. But for me Utley is an easy yes while Kent is a big maybe.
I've always viewed Kent as a "probably", but that's without doing a whole lot of research. Either way, Utley is a clear level above him.
Bonds and Clemens get in because, while we know for sure the used steroids, they were awesome before they started. As if we know the precise date when they started using.
Meanwhile, Bagwell doesn't get his vote because there are rumours that he may have used at some point, and, assuming he did, he wouldn't have been good enough to make the Hall of Fame without them.
Bonds and Clemens get in because, while we know for sure the used steroids, they were awesome before they started. As if we know the precise date when they started using.
Meanwhile, Bagwell doesn't get his vote because there are rumours that he may have used at some point, and, assuming he did, he wouldn't have been good enough to make the Hall of Fame without them.
What a disingenuous load of shit.
He voted for Bonds but left Clemens off. He voted for Lee Smith, Jorge Posada, Fred McGriff, and Trevor Hoffman while leaving off Roger Clemens, Curt Schilling, and Jeff Bagwell.
His Guerrero vs. Walker comparison is hilarious, too.
"Walker has a MUCH higher WAR than Guerrero, but I don't believe that because Lou Whitaker isn't better than Derek Jeter. Anyway, here's a random assortment of Guerrero stats. It doesn't matter what Walker's stats were in those categories because he played a bunch of years in Colorado."
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