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spike · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 4:18 am **Posts:** 28068

Who will be the inaugural Thomas Brady Super Bowl Most Valuable Player Award winner?

Simple Torture · **Posted:** Thu February 02, 2023 6:41 pm

spike wrote:

Who will be the inaugural Thomas Brady Super Bowl Most Valuable Player Award winner?

Not Adam Vinatieri.

4/5 · **Joined:** Thu December 20, 2012 4:45 pm **Posts:** 6647

Bammer spitting facts.

philpritchard · **Joined:** Thu January 03, 2013 3:45 pm **Posts:** 4148

Chris_H_2 wrote:

philpritchard wrote:

blueviper wrote:

He's probably in for more defense.

I think as the years go on you'll see an adjustment on how players are rated in terms of hall of fame worthiness. Are careers trending shorter? Will rules changes (like this coming years pitch clock and no infield shifts) affect player stats?

Yeah, in general I don't think defense is valued nearly enough, especially at non-up-the-middle positions. Rolen is easily one of the best defensive players of all time, and his 122 wRC+ is tied with Kirby Puckett and Paul Molitor.

Rolen was always a no-brainer for me, but I'm still a bit surprised he got in.

what are you feelings on omar vizquel?

I don't think he's particularly close. The best comparable I can think of is Ozzie Smith, but Smith was WAY better at everything.

Vizquel's case looks better on the surface than it really is because he played for forever and got close to some offensive milestones.

He was fun to watch, though.

lennytheweedwhacker · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 3:21 pm **Posts:** 42081

Antonio Gates

Chris_H_2 · **Posted:** Wed February 08, 2023 8:06 pm

1,000,000% yes

Monkey_Driven · **Posted:** Wed February 08, 2023 8:22 pm

Lebron James

lennytheweedwhacker · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 3:21 pm **Posts:** 42081

Monkey_Driven wrote:

Lebron James

I’d say yes if not for the steroids and meth

lennytheweedwhacker · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 3:21 pm **Posts:** 42081

Freddie Freeman?

Bammer · **Posted:** Wed August 02, 2023 1:45 pm

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Freddie Freeman?

Well they have to induct someone. I mean look at the 2023 class.

So, probably, yeah.

Simple Torture · **Posted:** Wed August 02, 2023 1:59 pm

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Freddie Freeman?

He’s older than I thought he was, which matters because I don’t think he’s there just yet, but he’s been pretty healthy over his career, so I imagine he’s got some years left. Maybe if he squeezes out another MVP and gets to 400 HRs and 3000 hits? Counting stats still do seem to matter to the HOF. He could also certainly end up with a career WAR over 75, which is higher than quite a few HOFers.

Bammer · **Posted:** Sat August 19, 2023 2:00 am

If he retired today:

Mike Trout?
Jose Altuve?
Aaron Judge?
Shohei Ohtani?

lennytheweedwhacker · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 3:21 pm **Posts:** 42081

Just Trout

Bammer · **Posted:** Sat August 19, 2023 6:17 am

Known cheater Jose Altuve, who is still shy of 2000 hits, was described by the Mariners broadcaster as a sure HOF’er today.

I dunno man. He seems like the kinda guy that needs to get 3000 hits for consideration. Maybe I’m biased because FUCK the Astros, but that’s 6 more years of his career average 161 hits per season.

He’s not getting my vote.

lennytheweedwhacker · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 3:21 pm **Posts:** 42081

I think he will get in

Bammer · **Posted:** Sat August 19, 2023 2:08 pm

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Just Trout

High praise for a guy who has the same number of gold gloves and playoff appearances as me

lennytheweedwhacker · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 3:21 pm **Posts:** 42081

Bammer wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Just Trout

High praise for a guy who has the same number of gold gloves and playoff appearances as me

Good thing those aren’t the only two standards

Bammer · **Posted:** Sat August 19, 2023 2:47 pm

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Bammer wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Just Trout

High praise for a guy who has the same number of gold gloves and playoff appearances as me

Good thing those aren’t the only two standards

Welcome, Mike Trout, to the Hall of Very Good

lennytheweedwhacker · **Joined:** Wed January 02, 2013 3:21 pm **Posts:** 42081

Bammer wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Bammer wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Just Trout

High praise for a guy who has the same number of gold gloves and playoff appearances as me

Good thing those aren’t the only two standards

Welcome, Mike Trout, to the Hall of Very Good

lol right

The Argonaut · **Posted:** Sat August 19, 2023 4:39 pm

Bammer wrote:

lennytheweedwhacker wrote:

Just Trout

High praise for a guy who has the same number of gold gloves and playoff appearances as me

You've played in 3 ALDS games!?

Will he be a Hall of Famer?

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