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Maybe the NCAA HoF
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
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I'm not arguing for or against Pujols in the HOF--he's undoubtedly in, I argued in the MLB thread pre-season thay he's surely the best player of his generation--but it's wild how his career is split in half by the numbers.
Pujols is 47th all time in OPS (.921, between Piazza and Snider), but his OPS for his first 11 seasons (all in STL) was 1.037, which would've been good for 6th all time (between Foxx and Hank Greenberg). His OPS in LAA was .758; player comps at that range are Jaboy Ellsbury and Juan Encarnarcion.
Would Pujols have been a HOFer if he retired at 32?
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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
without looking at his numbers, is this basically the same “overly dominant in a moderately short period of time” question?
i’d lean yes if so
I mean, I don't think 11 years is a small sample size. He already had ~450 HRs, the 1+ OPS, 86 WAR (which is basically 86% of his career total), 2000 hits, basically had a 3:2 BB to K ratio, 3 MVPs, 10x AS...that's a whole career worth of numbers.
without looking at his numbers, is this basically the same “overly dominant in a moderately short period of time” question?
i’d lean yes if so
I mean, I don't think 11 years is a small sample size. He already had ~450 HRs, the 1+ OPS, 86 WAR (which is basically 86% of his career total), 2000 hits, basically had a 3:2 BB to K ratio, 3 MVPs, 10x AS...that's a whole career worth of numbers.
without looking at his numbers, is this basically the same “overly dominant in a moderately short period of time” question?
i’d lean yes if so
I mean, I don't think 11 years is a small sample size. He already had ~450 HRs, the 1+ OPS, 86 WAR (which is basically 86% of his career total), 2000 hits, basically had a 3:2 BB to K ratio, 3 MVPs, 10x AS...that's a whole career worth of numbers.
then yes no doubt
you think no doubt belongs in the rock n roll hof?
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Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
Simple Torture wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
without looking at his numbers, is this basically the same “overly dominant in a moderately short period of time” question?
i’d lean yes if so
I mean, I don't think 11 years is a small sample size. He already had ~450 HRs, the 1+ OPS, 86 WAR (which is basically 86% of his career total), 2000 hits, basically had a 3:2 BB to K ratio, 3 MVPs, 10x AS...that's a whole career worth of numbers.
Top 40 all-time HRs plus consideration on how shortened career affected hit total-yes, absolutely.
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VinylGuy wrote:
its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 6:02 am Posts: 9712 Location: Tristes Tropiques
But it is interesting to see how quickly he fell off once he turned 32/35.
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its really tiresome to see these ¨good guys¨ talking about any political stuff in tv while also being kinda funny and hip and cool....its just...please enough of this shit.
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