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 Post subject: Re: New England Patriots
PostPosted: Fri January 05, 2018 2:47 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: New England Patriots
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Regardless of drama, Father Time is going to catch up to Brady at some point. If it happens in 2018 the Patriots could be in deep trouble if they can't hit on another QB in the draft. I realize it may not have been practical to keep Garoppolo after this season but Belichick's usually good with succession plans.

Of course, if Belichick really wanted to be ruthless he could have traded Brady to his childhood team. :twisted: That's long been an alternate history favorite of mine.


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I 100% think Bill’s plan was to move on from Brady after this season.


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They'll win it this year, just because Brady is pissed off about it all now. But next year could be his last, as he is probably losing his OC, DC, and Bill's trust.

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 Post subject: Re: New England Patriots
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They'll win it this year, just because Brady is pissed off about it all now. But next year could be his last, as he is probably losing his OC, DC, and Bill's trust.
If they win it this year, Belichick should just retire and leave McDaniels with the Brady breakdown era.


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 Post subject: Re: New England Patriots
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None of this aside from the news that the Pats offered Jimmy a contract is new news. Local media have been reporting this and that for the whole year. I do believe most of it.

Still, I can't even count how many times that the media or non-Pats fans have counted the Patriots out, done, finished, ovahhh. Eventually a blind squirrel catches a nut so at some point the "this is the end" prediction will ring true.


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 Post subject: Re: New England Patriots
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 Post subject: Re: New England Patriots
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the only thing that disappoints me was trading Jimmy. other than that, no, not at all.


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 Post subject: Re: New England Patriots
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it sounds similar to the final days of favre in green bay, though the packers made the baller move and didn't put one player - no matter how great - above what's best for the franchise long term.


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it sounds similar to the final days of favre in green bay, though the packers made the baller move and didn't put one player - no matter how great - above what's best for the franchise long term.


That's been Belichik's MO for years. If he traded Brady to Cleveland for the #1 pick I wouldn't be shocked at all (not that I think it will happen, just that it wouldn't be totally shocking).

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 Post subject: Re: New England Patriots
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They kinda got hosed on the Jimmy G deal. Only a 2nd round pick for a guy who looks like a possible top 10 QB? Should've been a 1st and a 2nd at least.


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 Post subject: Re: New England Patriots
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Simple Torture wrote:
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it sounds similar to the final days of favre in green bay, though the packers made the baller move and didn't put one player - no matter how great - above what's best for the franchise long term.


That's been Belichik's MO for years. If he traded Brady to Cleveland for the #1 pick I wouldn't be shocked at all (not that I think it will happen, just that it wouldn't be totally shocking).

i'm referring to the trading jimmy g move. the packers didn't trade rodgers.


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 Post subject: Re: New England Patriots
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The only thing that really shocked me with personnel this year was trading both Brissett and Jimmy.

GM Bill turned two back ups into a #3 WR (which came in pretty handy after Hogan got hurt). And a 2nd rounder next year. Maybe it was just a need at WR and the ungodly number of FAs this offseason, or (most optimistically) maybe he feels like QBs are entering the league with better skills and he feels confident they can get someone in the draft that will be at Brissett's level (and above Hoyer's) come August.

We'll see, I'm happy to have yet another chance to see a super bowl championship. Each year feels like a farewell tour at this point.


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 Post subject: Re: New England Patriots
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spike wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
spike wrote:
it sounds similar to the final days of favre in green bay, though the packers made the baller move and didn't put one player - no matter how great - above what's best for the franchise long term.


That's been Belichik's MO for years. If he traded Brady to Cleveland for the #1 pick I wouldn't be shocked at all (not that I think it will happen, just that it wouldn't be totally shocking).

i'm referring to the trading jimmy g move. the packers didn't trade rodgers.


It's really hard to fairly compare the Pats situation to any other team; their run is unmatched in the NFL and the dynamics of putting team above all else has worked out pretty well for them.

The Pats have dealt away plenty of stars in Milloy, Seymour, Collins, Branch, Chandler Jones, etc. They've made plenty of "baller" moves.


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 Post subject: Re: New England Patriots
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ESPN is really running with this for ratings, huh? There's an E:60 on it now

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 Post subject: Re: New England Patriots
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spike wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
spike wrote:
it sounds similar to the final days of favre in green bay, though the packers made the baller move and didn't put one player - no matter how great - above what's best for the franchise long term.


That's been Belichik's MO for years. If he traded Brady to Cleveland for the #1 pick I wouldn't be shocked at all (not that I think it will happen, just that it wouldn't be totally shocking).

i'm referring to the trading jimmy g move. the packers didn't trade rodgers.


It's really hard to fairly compare the Pats situation to any other team; their run is unmatched in the NFL and the dynamics of putting team above all else has worked out pretty well for them.

The Pats have dealt away plenty of stars in Milloy, Seymour, Collins, Branch, Chandler Jones, etc. They've made plenty of "baller" moves.

That's a fair point; the Packers' may've felt more pressure to yield to Favre's demands had he led them to a SB victory the year before.

Still, it's a huge gamble to put all your chips on a 40 year old football player playing for several more seasons. BB must be fuming.


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spike wrote:
Coach wrote:
spike wrote:
Simple Torture wrote:
spike wrote:
it sounds similar to the final days of favre in green bay, though the packers made the baller move and didn't put one player - no matter how great - above what's best for the franchise long term.


That's been Belichik's MO for years. If he traded Brady to Cleveland for the #1 pick I wouldn't be shocked at all (not that I think it will happen, just that it wouldn't be totally shocking).

i'm referring to the trading jimmy g move. the packers didn't trade rodgers.


It's really hard to fairly compare the Pats situation to any other team; their run is unmatched in the NFL and the dynamics of putting team above all else has worked out pretty well for them.

The Pats have dealt away plenty of stars in Milloy, Seymour, Collins, Branch, Chandler Jones, etc. They've made plenty of "baller" moves.

That's a fair point; the Packers' may've felt more pressure to yield to Favre's demands had he led them to a SB victory the year before.

Still, it's a huge gamble to put all your chips on a 40 year old football player playing for several more seasons. BB must be fuming.


No doubt, if I had it my way this season would be Brady's last in New England and we'd begin next season with Jimmy G. Now we've got to draft another QB and hope we strike gold again. Still, I've been guilty of slamming the Pats for giving up on players in their prime, so what do I know.


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