Orpheus wrote:
Coach wrote:
I think that Brady is now the gold standard for all NFL quarterbacks. It was funny when people thought Manning was better. That debate is over.
The debate isn't over IMO, because Brady had much better organizational support. What would Manning's career have looked like with almost two decades of coaching and management from Belichick? I don't want to hear anything about Brady's "bad luck," considering he really hasn't had any. When their offense wasn't the focal point they had a great defense; when the defense started slipping they put together their excellent offensive teams, and in years like 2014 they had both. In the offensive-driven years he has played with likely the greatest slot receiver ever, the greatest WR ever, likely the greatest TE ever, and another player that I think would have made the Hall of Fame in Hernandez if he could've stayed clean. The benefit he has received being a part of the most excellent football organization since Walsh's 49ers cannot be overstated. They went 3-1 without him this year and 11-5 the last time he was out for the year. Manning's Colt's got the #1 pick the year he missed. It's night and day.
Also, Manning's injury was much more severe than Brady's and probably knocked 2-3 good years off his career. And for a last point, I know Pats fans will never cop to this, but the whole cheating thing can't be ignored.
