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Dev wrote:
run2death wrote:
Dev wrote:
run2death wrote:
You don't really "evolve" into a good marathon runner.
The marathon taxes specific systems of the body that have to be trained. You have to push your VO2 max and lactate threshold AND train your body to burn multiple fuel sources.
Everybody has a first marathon and you have to grind it out and push yourself.
If you're not interested in that distance, that's cool, but you shouldn't really pretend that your gonna naturally wander into marathon shape.
I'd argue if you're gonna do that, you may as well go straight into ultras, because at those distances most people don't really worry about the VO2 and lactate threshold stuff.
The marathon is so intriguing to most people because it really does seem like the furthest most people can go and still "redline" themselves the whole way.
Dude, I never said I was going to wander into. I just said I was going to incrementally train my muscles, V02 and lactate threshold. I doubled my long distances distances last summer. I understand that you have to push yourself.
I laid out my plan specifically. I want to get comfortable running 30km next season, and then full marathons the season after that. Of course, it's all hypothetical. It might go faster or slower. I don't really care. I just have to respect my recovery time.
My hope is that if I train at the proper pace that I can redline at even greater distances than a full marathon at some point.
What's your plan between your running "seasons?"
Well, I still try to run once a week if the weather permits. Mostly I am playing hockey and weight training during the colder winter months. Hockey can't really compete with running in terms of cardio tho...
Yeah, that's the biggest problem I have with your plan.
As I said, running taxes specific systems of the body. You can't just drop it for a couple of months and expect to come back and pick up where you left off.
Marathon training is best in stages where you build your core, then build leg strength and finally zero in on your speed while maintaining decent mileage.
Listen man, my whole point here was that you and reid could absolutely run a great marathon in 4 months if you dedicate yourself to a good training plan.
I'm not trying to harsh your running buzz. If you wanna just go out and run, do it. Some of the best running of my life were times when I wasn't actually training for anything and just ran my favorite trails for a couple of months.
You don't really "evolve" into a good marathon runner.
The marathon taxes specific systems of the body that have to be trained. You have to push your VO2 max and lactate threshold AND train your body to burn multiple fuel sources.
Everybody has a first marathon and you have to grind it out and push yourself.
If you're not interested in that distance, that's cool, but you shouldn't really pretend that your gonna naturally wander into marathon shape.
I'd argue if you're gonna do that, you may as well go straight into ultras, because at those distances most people don't really worry about the VO2 and lactate threshold stuff.
The marathon is so intriguing to most people because it really does seem like the furthest most people can go and still "redline" themselves the whole way.
Dude, I never said I was going to wander into. I just said I was going to incrementally train my muscles, V02 and lactate threshold. I doubled my long distances distances last summer. I understand that you have to push yourself.
I laid out my plan specifically. I want to get comfortable running 30km next season, and then full marathons the season after that. Of course, it's all hypothetical. It might go faster or slower. I don't really care. I just have to respect my recovery time.
My hope is that if I train at the proper pace that I can redline at even greater distances than a full marathon at some point.
What's your plan between your running "seasons?"
Well, I still try to run once a week if the weather permits. Mostly I am playing hockey and weight training during the colder winter months. Hockey can't really compete with running in terms of cardio tho...
Yeah, that's the biggest problem I have with your plan.
As I said, running taxes specific systems of the body. You can't just drop it for a couple of months and expect to come back and pick up where you left off.
Marathon training is best in stages where you build your core, then build leg strength and finally zero in on your speed while maintaining decent mileage.
Listen man, my whole point here was that you and reid could absolutely run a great marathon in 4 months if you dedicate yourself to a good training plan.
I'm not trying to harsh your running buzz. If you wanna just go out and run, do it. Some of the best running of my life were times when I wasn't actually training for anything and just ran my favorite trails for a couple of months.
if I am being honest I will probably bang out a full marathon this summer. I was just talking shit. I love running and I love that we share running because running is a very special thing if clicks for you. See you at the finish line, bud.
PS I can totally pick up where I left off in the spring.
you don't really need anything on your face unless there is an extreme cold warning and could get tissue damage.
The skin on my nose peeled this week from skating.
I mostly leave the buff and bottom part of the balaclava around my neck and pull them up when I need to warm up for a minute. You start to feel like you're being smothered after a while with them on.
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