Thu October 23, 2014 1:27 pm
Green Habit wrote:I wasn't sure what that's about, so here's a link to an article:
http://www.cbssports.com/general/eye-on ... commercialIt isn't completely illogical for the schools and the NCAA to be so draconian--after all, they are getting free labor. If they crack the door open a bit they risk having the whole thing swing open. That's probably why they're so strict against agents--they'd given them all kinds of info to organize. Eventually, though, it will be impossible to stop.Electromatic wrote:Do you think they have the ability to reason at all or are they just too dense to see that amateurism at the highest levels of any sport at virtually any age is dead?
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Interesting. Surprised that no one thought a state legislature might do this, and even more interesting that it wasn't Alabama that did it first--especially since they disgracefully killed UAB's football program. Then again, does this only apply to Clemson and SCar or would smaller schools like Coastal Carolina or Charleston Southern be impacted?darth_vedder wrote:Bill introduced in SC House to make Clemson and South Carolina pay players on the Football and Basketball teams:
http://www.tigernet.com/update/player/S ... yers-18238
Wed December 17, 2014 5:02 pm
Green Habit wrote:Interesting. Surprised that no one thought a state legislature might do this, and even more interesting that it wasn't Alabama that did it first--especially since they disgracefully killed UAB's football program. Then again, does this only apply to Clemson and SCar or would smaller schools like Coastal Carolina or Charleston Southern be impacted?darth_vedder wrote:Bill introduced in SC House to make Clemson and South Carolina pay players on the Football and Basketball teams:
http://www.tigernet.com/update/player/S ... yers-18238
Wed December 17, 2014 5:14 pm
Heh, TIL Charleston Southern isn't public and The Citadel isn't run by the US government. The more you know!darth_vedder wrote:From what I gather just Clemson and South Carolina. I didn't see any mention of The Citadel, Coastal Carolina, Furman, or the other state schools.Green Habit wrote:Interesting. Surprised that no one thought a state legislature might do this, and even more interesting that it wasn't Alabama that did it first--especially since they disgracefully killed UAB's football program. Then again, does this only apply to Clemson and SCar or would smaller schools like Coastal Carolina or Charleston Southern be impacted?darth_vedder wrote:Bill introduced in SC House to make Clemson and South Carolina pay players on the Football and Basketball teams:
http://www.tigernet.com/update/player/S ... yers-18238
Wed January 14, 2015 2:26 am
Wed January 14, 2015 3:33 pm
Green Habit wrote:Mike Florio thinks Ezekiel Elliott should sit out 2015 after the monster performance he had:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... n-in-2015/
I'm not sure it would work out great since tOSU would almost certainly pull his scholarship. But here's another thought for similar players who don't want to risk injury on another year of playing football for (almost) free: transfer to another I-A school. The NCAA would force the player to sit out a year (exactly what the player wants to do) and then stay at that new school until he declares for the draft next year. He would almost certainly burn bridges at the schools in question, but could probably care less about that once he's in the pros. Might be a way to exploit a loophole in a bad NCAA rule.
Fri January 16, 2015 9:20 pm
Green Habit wrote:Mike Florio thinks Ezekiel Elliott should sit out 2015 after the monster performance he had:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... n-in-2015/
I'm not sure it would work out great since tOSU would almost certainly pull his scholarship. But here's another thought for similar players who don't want to risk injury on another year of playing football for (almost) free: transfer to another I-A school. The NCAA would force the player to sit out a year (exactly what the player wants to do) and then stay at that new school until he declares for the draft next year. He would almost certainly burn bridges at the schools in question, but could probably care less about that once he's in the pros. Might be a way to exploit a loophole in a bad NCAA rule.
Sat January 17, 2015 12:57 am
I generally agree with you, especially when specifically talking about Elliott. But don't underestimate the power of the almighty dollar to make people make odd choices.BigRedLedbetter wrote:Green Habit wrote:Mike Florio thinks Ezekiel Elliott should sit out 2015 after the monster performance he had:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... n-in-2015/
I'm not sure it would work out great since tOSU would almost certainly pull his scholarship. But here's another thought for similar players who don't want to risk injury on another year of playing football for (almost) free: transfer to another I-A school. The NCAA would force the player to sit out a year (exactly what the player wants to do) and then stay at that new school until he declares for the draft next year. He would almost certainly burn bridges at the schools in question, but could probably care less about that once he's in the pros. Might be a way to exploit a loophole in a bad NCAA rule.
This is fucking stupid. Should Herschel Walker have sat out after his Freshman season when he helped lead Georgia to a national title? He led them to a championship, was an All American and SEC player of the year as a true Freshman. He would have won the Heisman too had they had such a problem with giving it to Freshmen back in the day. The guy who won it that year (George Rogers) played the same position on an 8-3 team and their numbers were almost similar......
Rogers- 297 Att, 1781 Yds, 6.0 Avg, 14 TD
Walker- 274 Att, 1616 Yds, 5.9 Avg, 15 TD
I am off topic. Elliot could not carry Herschel's jock. Is he as polished as a guy like Adrian Peterson was after his Freshman year at OU? No way in hell. Yes, Elliot is a great prospect. He had a good year and obviously a great finish. I don't think anyone in doubting that... but this is a joke. The kid had 44 yards on 12 carries against Navy. He had 69 yards on 12 carries against Rutgers. He only had 30 carries as a Freshman last year. He has a lot to learn still. You wanna be a star? Have a year like this again next year with a bulls eye on your back.
Sat January 17, 2015 1:56 am
Green Habit wrote:I generally agree with you, especially when specifically talking about Elliott. But don't underestimate the power of the almighty dollar to make people make odd choices.BigRedLedbetter wrote:Green Habit wrote:Mike Florio thinks Ezekiel Elliott should sit out 2015 after the monster performance he had:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/20 ... n-in-2015/
I'm not sure it would work out great since tOSU would almost certainly pull his scholarship. But here's another thought for similar players who don't want to risk injury on another year of playing football for (almost) free: transfer to another I-A school. The NCAA would force the player to sit out a year (exactly what the player wants to do) and then stay at that new school until he declares for the draft next year. He would almost certainly burn bridges at the schools in question, but could probably care less about that once he's in the pros. Might be a way to exploit a loophole in a bad NCAA rule.
This is fucking stupid. Should Herschel Walker have sat out after his Freshman season when he helped lead Georgia to a national title? He led them to a championship, was an All American and SEC player of the year as a true Freshman. He would have won the Heisman too had they had such a problem with giving it to Freshmen back in the day. The guy who won it that year (George Rogers) played the same position on an 8-3 team and their numbers were almost similar......
Rogers- 297 Att, 1781 Yds, 6.0 Avg, 14 TD
Walker- 274 Att, 1616 Yds, 5.9 Avg, 15 TD
I am off topic. Elliot could not carry Herschel's jock. Is he as polished as a guy like Adrian Peterson was after his Freshman year at OU? No way in hell. Yes, Elliot is a great prospect. He had a good year and obviously a great finish. I don't think anyone in doubting that... but this is a joke. The kid had 44 yards on 12 carries against Navy. He had 69 yards on 12 carries against Rutgers. He only had 30 carries as a Freshman last year. He has a lot to learn still. You wanna be a star? Have a year like this again next year with a bulls eye on your back.
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Mon March 16, 2015 5:57 pm
Damnit, I forgot to post that in here when I saw it this morning. Thanks for covering for me. And it's brilliant, absolutely brilliant. Here's the video below: anyone who defends the status quo needs to watch this first.darth_vedder wrote:Guess I'll just stick this here:
http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketb ... bo-swinney
It's re: Paying athletes.
I am pretty pro athlete for the most part. Mainly, I just think the NCAA needs to blow up, and a new governing body forms with things like actual regional conferences, and more lax rules for athletes, including ability to profit on some things / accept money / discounts / donations. Also the human decency thing, like if a player has a personal problem and the coach buys him / her a ticket home or lunch, or a gift, or whatever. Nothing wrong with that.
Mon March 16, 2015 5:59 pm
Hypocrisy aside, paying coaches lavishly is the most defensible of all of the things schools spend lavishly on. They'd be off to the NFL and NBA otherwise.darth_vedder wrote:Oh also, sucks that Clemson was in this bit. I don't agree with coach Dabo Swinney on this. As with most things, there has to be middle ground.