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PostPosted: Wed December 09, 2020 9:07 pm 
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NBA RM Draft
When: Beginning Monday, December 14
Where: This thread
Who: Anybody who wants to participate
What: We will draft a team of NBA players (15 per team). The goal is to have the highest performing team (based on scoring described below) over the next three seasons.

--This is NOT fantasy sports, there will NOT be any roster management, trades, waivers, etc. We draft next week and our rosters are what they are for the next three seasons. It's basically just all of us predicting who we think will be better and worse over that span of time.

--Because this isn't fantasy, roster construction doesn't matter. The goal is not to construct a coherent roster, it is to earn the highest score possible. So it doesn't matter if you draft three ball dominant guys who could never really share the court or if half your roster is point guards. Draft the best 15 guys you can based on the scoring criteria below.

--We will used an advanced statistic known as win shares for most of the scoring. Win shares is a stat that attempts to estimate the number of wins contributed by a player. It includes both offensive and defensive performance, and unlike some other good advanced metrics like PER and VORP, WS take into account how much a person plays. So WS rewards guys who not only play well but stay healthy and play a lot.

--Playoff win shares will count for this as well.

--We will use the numbers provided by Basketball Reference for our official scoring. That link will take you to 2019-2020 advanced stats, sort by WS to get an idea of the scoring and the players that do well by that measurement.

--Bonus scoring categories: In addition to regular season and playoff win shares, there will be several additional ways for players to earn points, we'll call them achievement bonuses.
Spoiler: show
League MVP: +1
2nd place MVP voting: +0.67
3rd place MVP voting: +0.33

1st Team All-NBA: +1
2nd Team All-NBA: +0.67
3rd Team All-NBA: +0.33

1st Team All-Defense: +1
2nd Team All-Defense: +0.67

Finals MVP: +1

Team makes the playoffs: +0.1 (Player must have played on that team for at least half of the games)

Team wins round 1 series: +0.2 (Must play in at least half the series)

Team wins round 2 series: +0.2 (Must play in at least half the series)

Team wins conference championship: +0.25 (Must play in at least half the series)

Team wins NBA championship: +0.25 (Must play in at least half the series)


Draft order
1. 4/5
2. Monkey_Driven
3. Peeps
4. bada
5. E.H. Ruddock
6. Bammer
7. verb_to_trust

Teams
4/5
Spoiler: show
1. Giannis Antetokounmpo
2. LeBron James
3. Zion Williamson
4. Domantas Sabonis
5. Paul George
6. Josuf Nurkic
7. Montrezl Harrell
8. Tobias Harris
9. Duncan Robinson
10. Tyler Herro
11. Clint Capela
12. OG Anunoby
13. Spencer Dinwiddie
14. Malcolm Brogdon
15. Eric Bledsoe


Monkey_Driven
Spoiler: show
1. Anthony Davis
2. Bam Adebayo
3. Karl-Anthony Towns
4. Rudy Gobert
5. Kyrie Irving
6. Jarrett Allen
7. Ivica Zubac
8. Steven Adams
9. Mitchell Robinson
10. Chris Paul
11. TJ Warren
12. Brandon Clarke
13. Marcus Smart
14. Mikal Bridges
15. Myles Turner


Peeps
Spoiler: show
1. Jayson Tatum
2. Steph Curry
3. Joel Embiid
4. Trae Young
5. Brandon Ingram
6. Bogdan Bogdanović
7. Aaron Gordon
8. Robert Covington
9. Dennis Schröder
10. Talen Horton-Tucker
11. Alex Caruso
12. Brook Lopez
13. Coby White
14. D'Angelo Russell
15. Lonzo Ball


bada
Spoiler: show
1. Luka Doncic
2. Bradley Beal
3. Donovan Mitchell
4. Jamal Murray
5. Jaylen Brown
6. Nikola Vucevic
7. Jaren Jackson Jr
8. Klay Thompson
9. Christian Wood
10. John Collins
11. C.J. McCollum
12.Tyrese Haliburton
13. Dāvis Bertāns
14. Jalen Green
15. Payton Pritchard


Ruddo
Spoiler: show
1.Damian Lillard
2. Kawhi Leonard
3. Ben Simmons
4. De'Aaron Fox
5. Khris Middleton
6. Kyle Lowry
7. Fred VanVleet
8. Bojan Bogdanovic
9. Buddy Hield
10. Kevin Love
11. Zach Lavine
12. Serge Ibaka
13. Isaac Okoro
14. Josh Richardson
15. Lamelo Ball


Bammer
Spoiler: show
1. Kevin Durant
2. James Harden
3. Jimmy Butler
4. Pascal Siakam
5. Hassan Whiteside
6. Kemba Walker
7. Victor Oladipo
8. Jonas Valančiūnas
9. Gordon Hayward
10. James Wiseman
11. Caris Lavert
12. DeMar DeRozan
13. Daniel Theis
14. Colin Sexton
15. Matisse Thybulle


verb_to_trust
Spoiler: show
1. Devin Booker
2. Nikola Jokic
3. Ja Morant
4. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
5. Russell Westbrook
6. Kristaps Porzingis
7. Deandre Ayton
8. Andre Drummond
9. Michael Porter Jr.
10. Cade Cunningham
11. Jrue Holiday
12. Killian Hayes
13. PJ Washington
14. Patrick Williams
15. RJ Barrett



Draft Resuts
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Round 1
1. 4/5--Giannis Antetokounmpo
2. MD--Anthony Davis
3. Peeps--Jayson Tatum
4. bada--Luca Doncic
5. Ruddo--Damian Lillard
6. Bammer--Kevin Durant
7. verb--Devin Booker

Round 2
8. verb--Nikola Jokic
9. Bammer--James Harden
10. Ruddo--Kawhi Leonard
11. bada--Bradley Beal
12. Peeps--Steph Curry
13. MD--Bam Adebayo
14. 4/5--LeBron James

Round 3
15. 4/5--Zion Williamson
16. MD--Karl-Anthony Towns
17. Peeps--Joel Embiid
18. bada--Donovan Mitchell
19. Ruddo--Ben Simmons
20. Bammer--Jimmy Butler
21. verb--Ja Morant

Round 4
22. verb--Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
23. Bammer--Pascal Siakam
24. Ruddo--De'Aaron Fox
25. bada--Jamal Murray
26. Peeps--Trae Young
27. MD--Rudy Gobert
28. 4/5--Domantas Sabonis

Round 5
29. 4/5--Paul George
30. MD--Kyrie Irving
31. Peeps--Brandon Ingram
32. bada--Jaylen Brown
33. Ruddo--Khris Middleton
34. Bammer--Hassan Whiteside
35. verb--Russell Westbrook

Round 6
36. verb--Kristaps Porzingis
37. Bammer--Kemba Walker
38. Ruddo--Kyle Lowry
39. bada--Nikola Vucevic
40. Peeps--Bogdan Bogdanović
41. MD--Jarrett Allen
42. 4/5--Josuf Nurkic

Round 7
43. 4/5--Montrezl Harrell
44. MD--Ivica Zubac
45. Peeps--Aaron Gordon
46. bada--Jaren Jackson Jr
47. Ruddo--Fred VanVleet
48. Bammer--Victor Oladipo
49. verb--Deandre Ayton

Round 8
50. verb--Andre Drummond
51. Bammer--Jonas Valančiūnas
52. Ruddo--Bojan Bogdanovic
53. bada--Klay Thompson
54. Peeps--Robert Covington
55. MD--Steven Adams
56. 4/5--Tobias Harris

Round 9
57. 4/5--Duncan Robinson
58. MD--Mitchell Robinson
59. Peeps--Dennis Schröder
60. bada--Christian Wood
61. Ruddo--Buddy Hield
62. Bammer--Gordon Hayward
63. verb--Michael Porter Jr.

Round 10
64. verb--Cade Cunningham
65. Bammer--James Wiseman
66. Ruddo--Kevin Love
67. bada--John Collins
68. Peeps--Talen Horton-Tucker
69. MD--Chris Paul
70. 4/5--Tyler Herro

Round 11
71. 4/5--Clint Capela
72. MD--TJ Warren
73. Peeps--Alex Caruso
74. bada--C.J. McCollum
75. Ruddo--Zach Lavine
76. Bammer--Caris Lavert
77. verb--Jrue Holiday

Round 12
78. verb--Killian Hayes
79. Bammer--DeMar Derozan
80. Ruddo--Serge Ibaka
81. bada--Tyrese Haliburton
82. Peeps--Brook Lopez
83. MD--Brandon Clarke
84. 4/5--OG Anunoby

Round 13
85. 4/5--Spencer Dinwiddie
86. MD--Marcus Smart
87. Peeps--Coby White
88. bada--Dāvis Bertāns
89. Ruddo--Isaac Okoro
90. Bammer--Daniel Theis
91. verb--PJ Washington

Round 14
92. verb--Patrick Williams
93. Bammer--Collin Sexton
94. Ruddo--Josh Richardson
95. bada--Jalen Green
96. Peeps--D'Angelo Russell
97. MD--Mikal Bridges
98. 4/5--Malcolm Brogdon

Round 15
99. 4/5--Eric Bledsoe
100. MD--Myles Turner
101. Peeps--Lonzo Ball
102. bada--Payton Pritchard
103. Ruddo--Lamelo Ball
104. Bammer--Matisse Thybulle
105. verb--RJ Barrett

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 Post subject: Re: NBA Thread
PostPosted: Wed December 09, 2020 10:03 pm 
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you need to start a fresh thread, man


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 Post subject: Re: NBA Thread
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Maybe. It won't take long if it's just me lol.

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4/5 wrote:
NBA RM Draft
When: Beginning Monday, December 14
Where: This thread
Who: Anybody who wants to participate
What: We will draft a team of NBA players (15 per team). The goal is to have the highest performing team (based on scoring described below) over the next three seasons.

--This is NOT fantasy sports, there will NOT be any roster management, trades, waivers, etc. We draft next week and our rosters are what they are for the next three seasons. It's basically just all of us predicting who we think will be better and worse over that span of time.

--Because this isn't fantasy, roster construction doesn't matter. The goal is not to construct a coherent roster, it is to earn the highest score possible. So it doesn't matter if you draft three ball dominant guys who could never really share the court or if half your roster is point guards. Draft the best 15 guys you can based on the scoring criteria below.

--We will used an advanced statistic known as win shares for most of the scoring. Win shares is a stat that attempts to estimate the number of wins contributed by a player. It includes both offensive and defensive performance, and unlike some other good advanced metrics like PER and VORP, WS take into account how much a person plays. So WS rewards guys who not only play well but stay healthy and play a lot.

--Playoff win shares will count for this as well.

--We will use the numbers provided by Basketball Reference for our official scoring. That link will take you to 2019-2020 advanced stats, sort by WS to get an idea of the scoring and the players that do well by that measurement.

--Bonus scoring categories: In addition to regular season and playoff win shares, there will be several additional ways for players to earn points, we'll call them achievement bonuses.
League MVP: +1
2nd place MVP voting: +0.67
3rd place MVP voting: +0.33

1st Team All-NBA: +1
2nd Team All-NBA: +0.67
3rd Team All-NBA: +0.33

1st Team All-Defense: +1
2nd Team All-Defense: +0.67

Finals MVP: +1

Team makes the playoffs: +0.1 (Player must have played on that team for at least half of the games)

Team wins round 1 series: +0.2 (Must play in at least half the series)

Team wins round 2 series: +0.2 (Must play in at least half the series)

Team wins conference championship: +0.25 (Must play in at least half the series)

Team wins NBA championship: +0.25 (Must play in at least half the series)

Copy this post, paste to a new thread.

Come back and edit this post and just make it a link to the new thread.

*hoping nobody drafts JaVale McGee out from under me*

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Where's verb?

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I'm in, but we should make a new thread.


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Aight, np.

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NBA RM Draft
When: Beginning Monday, December 14
Where: This thread
Who: Anybody who wants to participate
What: We will draft a team of NBA players (15 per team). The goal is to have the highest performing team (based on scoring described below) over the next three seasons.

--This is NOT fantasy sports, there will NOT be any roster management, trades, waivers, etc. We draft next week and our rosters are what they are for the next three seasons. It's basically just all of us predicting who we think will be better and worse over that span of time.

--Because this isn't fantasy, roster construction doesn't matter. The goal is not to construct a coherent roster, it is to earn the highest score possible. So it doesn't matter if you draft three ball dominant guys who could never really share the court or if half your roster is point guards. Draft the best 15 guys you can based on the scoring criteria below.

--We will used an advanced statistic known as win shares for most of the scoring. Win shares is a stat that attempts to estimate the number of wins contributed by a player. It includes both offensive and defensive performance, and unlike some other good advanced metrics like PER and VORP, WS take into account how much a person plays. So WS rewards guys who not only play well but stay healthy and play a lot.

--Playoff win shares will count for this as well.

--We will use the numbers provided by Basketball Reference for our official scoring. That link will take you to 2019-2020 advanced stats, sort by WS to get an idea of the scoring and the players that do well by that measurement.

--Bonus scoring categories: In addition to regular season and playoff win shares, there will be several additional ways for players to earn points, we'll call them achievement bonuses.

Spoiler: show
League MVP: +12nd place MVP voting: +0.67
3rd place MVP voting: +0.33

1st Team All-NBA: +1
2nd Team All-NBA: +0.67
3rd Team All-NBA: +0.33

1st Team All-Defense: +1
2nd Team All-Defense: +0.67

Finals MVP: +1

Team makes the playoffs: +0.1 (Player must have played on that team for at least half of the games)

Team wins round 1 series: +0.2 (Must play in at least half the series)

Team wins round 2 series: +0.2 (Must play in at least half the series)

Team wins conference championship: +0.25 (Must play in at least half the series)

Team wins NBA championship: +0.25 (Must play in at least half the series)


Participants:
1. 4/5
2.
3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

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How many times do MD and I have to announce that we’re in?

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Bammer wrote:
How many times do MD and I have to announce that we’re in?


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Participants:
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2. Bammer
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4.
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Peeps wrote:
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Sweet. :thumbsup:

Header updated.

Spike, bada, electro??

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Participants:
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2. Bammer
3. Monkey_Driven
4. Peeps
5. E.H. Ruddock

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can we do trades?


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4/5 wrote:
Participants:
1. 4/5
2. Bammer
3. Monkey_Driven
4. Peeps
5. E.H. Ruddock

:shock:


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Didn't realize it changed the thread title when I merged those posts. :oops:

spike wrote:
4/5 wrote:
Participants:
1. 4/5
2. Bammer
3. Monkey_Driven
4. Peeps
5. E.H. Ruddock

:shock:

C'mon spike, if you get a top two pick you can probably have Giannis on your team for the next three years no matter what he does!

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