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PostPosted: Mon August 09, 2021 5:27 pm 
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Also, the fanbase doesn't give a shit anymore because they've won 4 World Series in the last 17 years...there was definitely a dropoff in rabidness after 2004, but it's only decreased each year, the one exception being 2013 for obvious reasons...add in the fact that the younger crowd (anyone younger than 35, and that's being generous) doesn't give a shit about baseball, and that a lot of the hardcores have literally died off in the last 15 years or so, and you get what you have now in terms of the fanbase


It has eroded at a much faster pace since 2019. You cannot convince it's not because the owners/front office have completely embraced antagonizing and insulting the fans whenever they speak in public.


Sam Kennedy is an embarrassment...Werner and Henry aren't much better.

But I think you're overestimating the fan base. Sure, everyone jumped on the bandwagon again in 2018 because it was a playoff run but it was nothing more than casuals along for the ride. Hell, at this point, I'm so put off by them (ownership/Kennedy) that I'm pretty much a casual fan at this point and was actively hoping they'd lose 100 games this year.

The decline truly started in earnest after Theo left, the Tito slander article, and Bobby V. They lucked out in 2013 which stopped the bleeding but then sucked for 2 years after that which was the final nail in the coffin in terms of the old guard style of Red Sox fan.


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MattA75 wrote:
Also, the fanbase doesn't give a shit anymore because they've won 4 World Series in the last 17 years...there was definitely a dropoff in rabidness after 2004, but it's only decreased each year, the one exception being 2013 for obvious reasons...add in the fact that the younger crowd (anyone younger than 35, and that's being generous) doesn't give a shit about baseball, and that a lot of the hardcores have literally died off in the last 15 years or so, and you get what you have now in terms of the fanbase


It has eroded at a much faster pace since 2019. You cannot convince it's not because the owners/front office have completely embraced antagonizing and insulting the fans whenever they speak in public.


Sam Kennedy is an embarrassment...Werner and Henry aren't much better.

But I think you're overestimating the fan base. Sure, everyone jumped on the bandwagon again in 2018 because it was a playoff run but it was nothing more than casuals along for the ride. Hell, at this point, I'm so put off by them (ownership/Kennedy) that I'm pretty much a casual fan at this point and was actively hoping they'd lose 100 games this year.

The decline truly started in earnest after Theo left, the Tito slander article, and Bobby V. They lucked out in 2013 which stopped the bleeding but then sucked for 2 years after that which was the final nail in the coffin in terms of the old guard style of Red Sox fan.


The bandwagon didnt really come back in 2018, attendance and ratings were not significantly up from the previous years. The pink hat 2004 fan just doesnt exist anymore, it's back to the diehards from pre-2004 only.


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numbers wrote:
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Also, the fanbase doesn't give a shit anymore because they've won 4 World Series in the last 17 years...there was definitely a dropoff in rabidness after 2004, but it's only decreased each year, the one exception being 2013 for obvious reasons...add in the fact that the younger crowd (anyone younger than 35, and that's being generous) doesn't give a shit about baseball, and that a lot of the hardcores have literally died off in the last 15 years or so, and you get what you have now in terms of the fanbase


It has eroded at a much faster pace since 2019. You cannot convince it's not because the owners/front office have completely embraced antagonizing and insulting the fans whenever they speak in public.


Sam Kennedy is an embarrassment...Werner and Henry aren't much better.

But I think you're overestimating the fan base. Sure, everyone jumped on the bandwagon again in 2018 because it was a playoff run but it was nothing more than casuals along for the ride. Hell, at this point, I'm so put off by them (ownership/Kennedy) that I'm pretty much a casual fan at this point and was actively hoping they'd lose 100 games this year.

The decline truly started in earnest after Theo left, the Tito slander article, and Bobby V. They lucked out in 2013 which stopped the bleeding but then sucked for 2 years after that which was the final nail in the coffin in terms of the old guard style of Red Sox fan.


The bandwagon didnt really come back in 2018, attendance and ratings were not significantly up from the previous years. The pink hat 2004 fan just doesnt exist anymore, it's back to the diehards from pre-2004 only.


there isn't really a personality for the pink hat fans to latch onto now...Pedro/Manny/Ortiz/Pedroia sort of led that for a long time, and I think Betts had some of that...but no one has that sort of personality to bring that type of fan in


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MattA75 wrote:
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MattA75 wrote:
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MattA75 wrote:
Also, the fanbase doesn't give a shit anymore because they've won 4 World Series in the last 17 years...there was definitely a dropoff in rabidness after 2004, but it's only decreased each year, the one exception being 2013 for obvious reasons...add in the fact that the younger crowd (anyone younger than 35, and that's being generous) doesn't give a shit about baseball, and that a lot of the hardcores have literally died off in the last 15 years or so, and you get what you have now in terms of the fanbase


It has eroded at a much faster pace since 2019. You cannot convince it's not because the owners/front office have completely embraced antagonizing and insulting the fans whenever they speak in public.


Sam Kennedy is an embarrassment...Werner and Henry aren't much better.

But I think you're overestimating the fan base. Sure, everyone jumped on the bandwagon again in 2018 because it was a playoff run but it was nothing more than casuals along for the ride. Hell, at this point, I'm so put off by them (ownership/Kennedy) that I'm pretty much a casual fan at this point and was actively hoping they'd lose 100 games this year.

The decline truly started in earnest after Theo left, the Tito slander article, and Bobby V. They lucked out in 2013 which stopped the bleeding but then sucked for 2 years after that which was the final nail in the coffin in terms of the old guard style of Red Sox fan.


The bandwagon didnt really come back in 2018, attendance and ratings were not significantly up from the previous years. The pink hat 2004 fan just doesnt exist anymore, it's back to the diehards from pre-2004 only.


there isn't really a personality for the pink hat fans to latch onto now...Pedro/Manny/Ortiz/Pedroia sort of led that for a long time, and I think Betts had some of that...but no one has that sort of personality to bring that type of fan in

Johnny Damon got that crowd "interested" in baseball.


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elliseamos wrote:
MattA75 wrote:
numbers wrote:
MattA75 wrote:
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MattA75 wrote:
Also, the fanbase doesn't give a shit anymore because they've won 4 World Series in the last 17 years...there was definitely a dropoff in rabidness after 2004, but it's only decreased each year, the one exception being 2013 for obvious reasons...add in the fact that the younger crowd (anyone younger than 35, and that's being generous) doesn't give a shit about baseball, and that a lot of the hardcores have literally died off in the last 15 years or so, and you get what you have now in terms of the fanbase


It has eroded at a much faster pace since 2019. You cannot convince it's not because the owners/front office have completely embraced antagonizing and insulting the fans whenever they speak in public.


Sam Kennedy is an embarrassment...Werner and Henry aren't much better.

But I think you're overestimating the fan base. Sure, everyone jumped on the bandwagon again in 2018 because it was a playoff run but it was nothing more than casuals along for the ride. Hell, at this point, I'm so put off by them (ownership/Kennedy) that I'm pretty much a casual fan at this point and was actively hoping they'd lose 100 games this year.

The decline truly started in earnest after Theo left, the Tito slander article, and Bobby V. They lucked out in 2013 which stopped the bleeding but then sucked for 2 years after that which was the final nail in the coffin in terms of the old guard style of Red Sox fan.


The bandwagon didnt really come back in 2018, attendance and ratings were not significantly up from the previous years. The pink hat 2004 fan just doesnt exist anymore, it's back to the diehards from pre-2004 only.


there isn't really a personality for the pink hat fans to latch onto now...Pedro/Manny/Ortiz/Pedroia sort of led that for a long time, and I think Betts had some of that...but no one has that sort of personality to bring that type of fan in

Johnny Damon got that crowd "interested" in baseball.


good call!


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MattA75 wrote:
elliseamos wrote:
MattA75 wrote:
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MattA75 wrote:
numbers wrote:
MattA75 wrote:
Also, the fanbase doesn't give a shit anymore because they've won 4 World Series in the last 17 years...there was definitely a dropoff in rabidness after 2004, but it's only decreased each year, the one exception being 2013 for obvious reasons...add in the fact that the younger crowd (anyone younger than 35, and that's being generous) doesn't give a shit about baseball, and that a lot of the hardcores have literally died off in the last 15 years or so, and you get what you have now in terms of the fanbase


It has eroded at a much faster pace since 2019. You cannot convince it's not because the owners/front office have completely embraced antagonizing and insulting the fans whenever they speak in public.


Sam Kennedy is an embarrassment...Werner and Henry aren't much better.

But I think you're overestimating the fan base. Sure, everyone jumped on the bandwagon again in 2018 because it was a playoff run but it was nothing more than casuals along for the ride. Hell, at this point, I'm so put off by them (ownership/Kennedy) that I'm pretty much a casual fan at this point and was actively hoping they'd lose 100 games this year.

The decline truly started in earnest after Theo left, the Tito slander article, and Bobby V. They lucked out in 2013 which stopped the bleeding but then sucked for 2 years after that which was the final nail in the coffin in terms of the old guard style of Red Sox fan.


The bandwagon didnt really come back in 2018, attendance and ratings were not significantly up from the previous years. The pink hat 2004 fan just doesnt exist anymore, it's back to the diehards from pre-2004 only.


there isn't really a personality for the pink hat fans to latch onto now...Pedro/Manny/Ortiz/Pedroia sort of led that for a long time, and I think Betts had some of that...but no one has that sort of personality to bring that type of fan in

Johnny Damon got that crowd "interested" in baseball.


good call!
and then Jacoby, Papelbon, and Lackey kept them interested.


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 Post subject: Re: Boston Red Sox Thread
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It was alot about the Red Sox and Fenway being cool and hip among yuppies, when that ended those people moved on to microbreweries and shit.


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It was alot about the Red Sox and Fenway being cool and hip among yuppies, when that ended those people moved on to microbreweries and shit.

Shit is pretty cool these days.


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You guys must feel a bit better this morning.


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Because the Patriots season is officially starting?


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Don't worry everyone Travis Shaw is here.


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 Post subject: Re: Boston Red Sox Thread
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The Mayor of Ding Dong City


It's Ding Dong Township at this point, at best.


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Don't worry everyone Travis Shaw is here.

Boston and Milwaukee keep swapping this guy around.


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3rd place!


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Will be 4th very soon.


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Will be 4th very soon.
Yup.
I told you the swoon was coming.


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I have never thought less of a walk off win.


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