Wed December 12, 2012 10:33 pm
Tue December 18, 2012 8:35 pm
Green Habit wrote:Naturally, this has to be the first thread that exists on this forum.
Thu December 20, 2012 4:46 pm
Thu December 20, 2012 6:09 pm
I think my current avatar answers that question.4/5 wrote:Which is stronger: your love of the Broncos or hate of the Raiders?
Tue January 01, 2013 10:05 am
Tue January 01, 2013 2:52 pm
Green Habit wrote:Naturally, this has to be the first thread that exists on this forum.
Tue January 01, 2013 5:47 pm
Tue January 01, 2013 6:57 pm
durdencommatyler wrote:My Chiefs may have a worse record... and may have been one of the most historically bad teams in the NFL this year, but they will never suck as badly as the Raiders. Ruck the Faiders!
Tue January 01, 2013 7:24 pm
Dr. Van Nostrand wrote:durdencommatyler wrote:My Chiefs may have a worse record... and may have been one of the most historically bad teams in the NFL this year, but they will never suck as badly as the Raiders. Ruck the Faiders!
I dont think the chiefs are much more then a qb away from being real good, the raiders need A LOT
Tue January 01, 2013 10:42 pm
Tue January 01, 2013 10:49 pm
Green Habit wrote:It sucks that the Chiefs got swept by the Raiders this year, it would have been fun to have some tag-teaming in the old thread.
Fri January 04, 2013 3:39 am
Fri January 04, 2013 5:10 am
Becoming a Broncos fan. I'm sure the same is true for the other Broncos & Chiefs (& Chargers?) fans on this board.washing machine II wrote:What was the genesis of the Nick/Raiders rivalry?
Fri January 04, 2013 5:14 am
Fri January 04, 2013 5:47 am
That certainly wasn't always the case. Here's a quick synopsis of the circle of AFC West Raider hatred:washing machine II wrote:Isn't the team perennially abysmal on the field? I guess I just don't know enough football history, because there has to be more to it than a division full contenders regularly pushing around the little guy. Right?
Fri January 04, 2013 5:54 am
Fri January 04, 2013 5:57 am
Fri January 04, 2013 5:58 am
Nah, I'm fine with the Emperor Palpatine presence staying in New England while the Raiders continue to act more like stormtroopers.Orpheus wrote:That's actually why I want the Raiders to be good again. We need that villainous, evil presence in the league.
Besides Bill Belichick, of course.
Fri January 04, 2013 3:34 pm
Fri January 04, 2013 4:05 pm
Green Habit wrote:That certainly wasn't always the case. Here's a quick synopsis of the circle of AFC West Raider hatred:washing machine II wrote:Isn't the team perennially abysmal on the field? I guess I just don't know enough football history, because there has to be more to it than a division full contenders regularly pushing around the little guy. Right?
--In the 60s, while the Broncos sucked badly the Chiefs & Raiders were the two best teams in the AFL. They were the first two AFL Super Bowl representatives. That rivalry got started early and fiercely.
--In the 70s, the Raiders pretty much ran over the entire AFC except for the Steelers. The Chiefs fell off a cliff and sucked for 20 years, while the Broncos clawed up to mediocrity and eventually knocked the Raiders off their pedestal in 1977 to go to their first Super Bowl. The Chargers also got their shots back in the late 70s/early 80s with Coryell, and when the Raiders moved to LA and invaded SoCal, the Chargers/Raiders rivalry went nuclear.
--In the late 80s, the Raiders hired away Mike Shanahan from the Broncos, but he only lasted a season and a quarter there because he wouldn't put up with Al Davis's micromanaging. The two had immense hatred for each other ever since and it only escalated when Shanny became the Broncos HC in 1995. When Al was alive and Shanny was there I'd be hard pressed to find a more vicious rivalry than that one.
--From the mid 90s onward, aside from that mini-run in the early 2000s they've been largely as abysmal as you recall. Shanny posted a 21-7 record against the Raiders and Schottenheimer went 18-3 against them with the Chiefs and 8-2 with the Chargers.