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Paper Cuts vs. Put You Down
Paper Cuts 69%  69%  [ 11 ]
Put You Down 31%  31%  [ 5 ]
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 Post subject: 53. Paper Cuts vs. Put You Down
PostPosted: Tue August 22, 2017 12:27 pm 
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I don't really like either of these. Paper Cuts, I guess

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I fucking love Paper Cuts. Nirvana at peak Melvins influence. Sludgy, noisy, wonderful.

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Paper Cuts easily!


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Listened to bleach on my drive today, it still slays. I would love if someday we got a reworked version with new drum performances by Grohl.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Listened to bleach on my drive today, it still slays. I would love if someday we got a reworked version with new drum performances by Grohl.

Re-cutting drum tracks is about the most difficult thing in the world to ask an engineer to do! Drums sound great as is anyway.

EDIT: I mean, unless they're just playing to a click.


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Iholdthepain wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Listened to bleach on my drive today, it still slays. I would love if someday we got a reworked version with new drum performances by Grohl.

Re-cutting drum tracks is about the most difficult thing in the world to ask an engineer to do! Drums sound great as is anyway.

EDIT: I mean, unless they're just playing to a click.

Oh, it's so easy these days with time stretching. That whole record could easily be stretched to fit a grid and click track, then re-humanized once the parts were captured. Assuming Dave could remember the parts easy enough, you're talking about three days in the studio before a mixing session.


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Channing is awesome on Bleach. The production is the problem, not the playing.

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tragabigzanda wrote:
Iholdthepain wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Listened to bleach on my drive today, it still slays. I would love if someday we got a reworked version with new drum performances by Grohl.

Re-cutting drum tracks is about the most difficult thing in the world to ask an engineer to do! Drums sound great as is anyway.

EDIT: I mean, unless they're just playing to a click.

Oh, it's so easy these days with time stretching. That whole record could easily be stretched to fit a grid and click track, then re-humanized once the parts were captured. Assuming Dave could remember the parts easy enough, you're talking about three days in the studio before a mixing session.

Ok maybe, but there's just something not right about pitch shifting, time stretching, and re-humanizing (whatever that is)... Give me some 2" tape, punch-ins, and a razor blade :-)


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Yeah, but those guitar, bass, and vocal tracks would still sound great. A new set of drum tracks would make the whole record sound huge.


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Iholdthepain wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Iholdthepain wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Listened to bleach on my drive today, it still slays. I would love if someday we got a reworked version with new drum performances by Grohl.

Re-cutting drum tracks is about the most difficult thing in the world to ask an engineer to do! Drums sound great as is anyway.

EDIT: I mean, unless they're just playing to a click.

Oh, it's so easy these days with time stretching. That whole record could easily be stretched to fit a grid and click track, then re-humanized once the parts were captured. Assuming Dave could remember the parts easy enough, you're talking about three days in the studio before a mixing session.

Ok maybe, but there's just something not right about pitch shifting, time stretching, and re-humanizing (whatever that is)... Give me some 2" tape, punch-ins, and a razor blade :-)

I used to love to bias my 2" machine and try to splice tape. But recent advances in summing boxes and plug-ins have rendered that approach unnecessarily laborious in my mind. Track digital, sum through an analog box to tape for the glue (compression and HF/LF roll off), then back to digital for the mix.


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tragabigzanda wrote:
Iholdthepain wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Iholdthepain wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Listened to bleach on my drive today, it still slays. I would love if someday we got a reworked version with new drum performances by Grohl.

Re-cutting drum tracks is about the most difficult thing in the world to ask an engineer to do! Drums sound great as is anyway.

EDIT: I mean, unless they're just playing to a click.

Oh, it's so easy these days with time stretching. That whole record could easily be stretched to fit a grid and click track, then re-humanized once the parts were captured. Assuming Dave could remember the parts easy enough, you're talking about three days in the studio before a mixing session.

Ok maybe, but there's just something not right about pitch shifting, time stretching, and re-humanizing (whatever that is)... Give me some 2" tape, punch-ins, and a razor blade :-)

I used to love to bias my 2" machine and try to splice tape. But recent advances in summing boxes and plug-ins have rendered that approach unnecessarily laborious in my mind. Track digital, sum through an analog box to tape for the glue (compression and HF/LF roll off), then back to digital for the mix.

I was just kidding about the tape... Can one even find a reel of clean 2" tape anymore? I thought it was all discontinued a few years back. Also, the tape splicing was indeed laborious, but it was a labor of love. All the tracking I ever do anymore is in Audacity... as a hobby, not as a job.


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There was a company that started making new tape several years back. Early reports were that it shed like crazy, and I know they changed something in the process to minimize that. No idea if they're still going or not.


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