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LoathedVermin72 · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 4:34 pm

SP were so great in their prime

stip · **Joined:** Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm **Posts:** 39549

they were amazing. I can't think of another band that fell off a cliff so rapidly

stip · **Joined:** Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm **Posts:** 39549

(waits for it...)

PHATJ · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 4:56 pm

stip wrote:

(waits for it...)

Matalica?

koopee27 · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 6:21 pm

Self wrote:

I am here to vote against everything Smashing Pumpkins. Not because I don't think they belong, but because I loathe them.

same here.

kp

bada · **Joined:** Tue January 01, 2013 5:53 pm **Posts:** 12081

stip wrote:

(waits for it...)

It's been a slow tumble.

Jorge · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 6:58 pm

stip wrote:

they were amazing. I can't think of another band that fell off a cliff so rapidly

IMO, they were great all throughout their initial run. I recently revisited Machina and it sounds like shit but it's filled with strong songs.

Siamese Dream remains my favorite 90s rock album

LoathedVermin72 · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 8:01 pm

Yeah I love MACHINA. Even Zeitgeist has some decent tracks.

stip · **Joined:** Thu December 13, 2012 6:31 pm **Posts:** 39549

i quite like adore, and there are some strong songs on machina, but even those two albums are a giant step back from SD and MC...

even gish is better than I remember. I think Billy Corgan is probably the most talented musician of that scene

tragabigzanda · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 8:39 pm

stip wrote:

I think Billy Corgan is probably the most talented musician of that scene

Agreed. Certainly not my favorite, but he understood how to meld the studio with the song far better than any of the others in this tournament.

epilogue · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 8:41 pm

I guess. But rarely has his music moved me. There are a handful of songs but that's it. So, really what's the point? What good is it being "the best musician" of a time and place if the music doesn't affect or move you?

doone · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 8:42 pm

Well said Joey

chewm · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 9:53 pm

theplatypus wrote:

stip wrote:

they were amazing. I can't think of another band that fell off a cliff so rapidly

IMO, they were great all throughout their initial run. I recently revisited Machina and it sounds like shit but it's filled with strong songs.

I agree.

Jorge · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 10:37 pm

It is actually unfair how head-and-shoulders above everything else Siamese Dream is in this tourney. It's almost reason enough to remove it.

chewm · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 10:39 pm

It's not even the best SP album.

Jorge · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 10:40 pm

But it iiiiiis Chewm it iiiiiiiiis

LoathedVermin72 · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 10:40 pm

stip wrote:

i quite like adore, and there are some strong songs on machina, but even those two albums are a giant step back from SD and MC...

Adore is their best album

epilogue · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 10:46 pm

Which songs are on that one again?

Jorge · **Posted:** Wed August 16, 2017 10:51 pm

"Tragic Seamstress of the Golden Rivers"

Kaius · **Joined:** Fri November 15, 2013 6:14 am **Posts:** 11136

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