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Not if it served the story. It's kind of a damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario based on how important her character is to the Resistance. I guess it would work to omit her if there is a big enough time jump.
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Listening to a pod earlier and a super heated debate about Anakin force ghost appearing to kylo and valid points both sides, if it serves the story it makes perfect sense / why hasn’t he admonished kylo before this point etc.
I’d be for him turning up but cos of what happened to Carrie and knowing they fired treverrow and jettisoned his story, I can’t see a way to include her at all outside of mentioning her passing as a galvanising moment that inspires the galaxy to rise against the first order. Sure there could be a way to involve her in the film, but should they is a different matter.
Listening to a pod earlier and a super heated debate about Anakin force ghost appearing to kylo and valid points both sides, if it serves the story it makes perfect sense / why hasn’t he admonished kylo before this point etc.
I’d be for him turning up but cos of what happened to Carrie and knowing they fired treverrow and jettisoned his story, I can’t see a way to include her at all outside of mentioning her passing as a galvanising moment that inspires the galaxy to rise against the first order. Sure there could be a way to involve her in the film, but should they is a different matter.
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Monkey_Driven wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
Listening to a pod earlier and a super heated debate about Anakin force ghost appearing to kylo and valid points both sides, if it serves the story it makes perfect sense / why hasn’t he admonished kylo before this point etc.
I’d be for him turning up but cos of what happened to Carrie and knowing they fired treverrow and jettisoned his story, I can’t see a way to include her at all outside of mentioning her passing as a galvanising moment that inspires the galaxy to rise against the first order. Sure there could be a way to involve her in the film, but should they is a different matter.
Isn't that what Luke's astral projection did?
Good point. One they will probably double down on through Leia and how they deal with her.
I was initially against a recasting of Leia (I think) but if you got the right actress I suppose it could potentially works. Only worth doing if Leia is really at the core of the story. If it is as a secondary supporting character I'd just as soon write around her.
I guess do you feel more loyalty to the character (Leia) or the actress in the role (Carrie Fisher)
Leia. Absolutely. Hands down. No question. The character is far more important and valuable than the actress that played her. She's bigger than Carrie.
But I do think story should dictate. If there's a way to write around Leia, then fine. But if we need Leia, give Leia.
For example, if Mon Mothma can do the same things Leia was gonna do, then let's get Mon Mothma back. But if it has to be Leia, I don't want the story to suffer just because Carrie is gone. Leia isn't gone yet.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
But I do think story should dictate. If there's a way to write around Leia, then fine. But if we need Leia, give Leia.
For example, if Mon Mothma can do the same things Leia was gonna do, then let's get Mon Mothma back. But if it has to be Leia, I don't want the story to suffer just because Carrie is gone. Leia isn't gone yet.
We were almost certainly gonna see a reunion between Leia and kylo. And that would have been the heart of it all. Even if that is still on the table would we accept a recast? I’m not sure we would.
As you said Internet is gonna internet and be outraged no matter what.
But I do think story should dictate. If there's a way to write around Leia, then fine. But if we need Leia, give Leia.
For example, if Mon Mothma can do the same things Leia was gonna do, then let's get Mon Mothma back. But if it has to be Leia, I don't want the story to suffer just because Carrie is gone. Leia isn't gone yet.
We were almost certainly gonna see a reunion between Leia and kylo. And that would have been the heart of it all. Even if that is still on the table would we accept a recast? I’m not sure we would.
As you said Internet is gonna internet and be outraged no matter what.
The only persons that can do it now are Rey, Luke, or Anakin ghost.
But I do think story should dictate. If there's a way to write around Leia, then fine. But if we need Leia, give Leia.
For example, if Mon Mothma can do the same things Leia was gonna do, then let's get Mon Mothma back. But if it has to be Leia, I don't want the story to suffer just because Carrie is gone. Leia isn't gone yet.
We were almost certainly gonna see a reunion between Leia and kylo. And that would have been the heart of it all. Even if that is still on the table would we accept a recast? I’m not sure we would.
As you said Internet is gonna internet and be outraged no matter what.
I'll beat this drum until I'm dead but... I would have no problem accepting it. In fact, I prefer a re-cast. But I'm not everyone. I know I'm in the minority on this. I'm sure JJ will make it work. But I'll always wonder what could have (should have?!) been.
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durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
But I do think story should dictate. If there's a way to write around Leia, then fine. But if we need Leia, give Leia.
For example, if Mon Mothma can do the same things Leia was gonna do, then let's get Mon Mothma back. But if it has to be Leia, I don't want the story to suffer just because Carrie is gone. Leia isn't gone yet.
We were almost certainly gonna see a reunion between Leia and kylo. And that would have been the heart of it all. Even if that is still on the table would we accept a recast? I’m not sure we would.
As you said Internet is gonna internet and be outraged no matter what.
I'll beat this drum until I'm dead but... I would have no problem accepting it. In fact, I prefer a re-cast. But I'm not everyone. I know I'm in the minority on this. I'm sure JJ will make it work. But I'll always wonder what could have (should have?!) been.
The what could have been question is going to haunt episode 9 for years regardless of what actually happens in it.
But I do think story should dictate. If there's a way to write around Leia, then fine. But if we need Leia, give Leia.
For example, if Mon Mothma can do the same things Leia was gonna do, then let's get Mon Mothma back. But if it has to be Leia, I don't want the story to suffer just because Carrie is gone. Leia isn't gone yet.
We were almost certainly gonna see a reunion between Leia and kylo. And that would have been the heart of it all. Even if that is still on the table would we accept a recast? I’m not sure we would.
As you said Internet is gonna internet and be outraged no matter what.
I'll beat this drum until I'm dead but... I would have no problem accepting it. In fact, I prefer a re-cast. But I'm not everyone. I know I'm in the minority on this. I'm sure JJ will make it work. But I'll always wonder what could have (should have?!) been.
The what could have been question is going to haunt episode 9 for years regardless of what actually happens in it.
Ultimately, these stories are about the new characters and i dont think the story will suffer all that much.
Sure. But Leia seems to have a quite a bit of unfinished business with the new characters. I'm sure they'll make it work but I do think had Carry lived, she would be just as crucial to this final chapter as Han was to TFA and Luke was to TLJ.
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