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 Post subject: Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)
PostPosted: Thu July 07, 2022 5:48 pm 
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https://thedirect.com/article/obi-wan-kenobi-commander-cody-scrapped-role-exclusive


Thanks for this, good read.

Does Solo bombing really preclude these guys from every releasing a new movie again, understanding they will release proper movies for the new trilogy.


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Coach wrote:
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https://thedirect.com/article/obi-wan-kenobi-commander-cody-scrapped-role-exclusive


Thanks for this, good read.

Does Solo bombing really preclude these guys from every releasing a new movie again, understanding they will release proper movies for the new trilogy.


I think they're lacking a defined overall strategy. They've fallen into the trap of relying on and responding to fan reaction as a whole. That, combined with pressures to release content on a regular basis, don't make for a situation where you're going to release consistently good product and are willing to take risks. I'd consider releasing films at this point to be a big financial risk for them -- or at least that's how they may perceive it.


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 Post subject: Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)
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Disney has released 5 Star Wars films. 4 of which made at least 1 billion dollars. If Lucasfilm and Disney see movies as a financial risk right now (and I don't think they do) they are out of their fucking minds.


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epilogue wrote:
Disney has released 5 Star Wars films. 4 of which made at least 1 billion dollars. If Lucasfilm and Disney see movies as a financial risk right now (and I don't think they do) they are out of their fucking minds.


The relative scale of "success" for Disney is what's off. A billion is the bare minimum they would consider a success at this point -- that's why Last Jedi and Solo were considered misses. They need to reset their expectations and commit to smaller, well-told stories before they ramp back up to tentpole trilogy-style releases.


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Where are you getting that The Last Jedi is considered a miss?


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Ensign9 wrote:
epilogue wrote:
Disney has released 5 Star Wars films. 4 of which made at least 1 billion dollars. If Lucasfilm and Disney see movies as a financial risk right now (and I don't think they do) they are out of their fucking minds.


The relative scale of "success" for Disney is what's off. A billion is the bare minimum they would consider a success at this point -- that's why Last Jedi and Solo were considered misses. They need to reset their expectations and commit to smaller, well-told stories before they ramp back up to tentpole trilogy-style releases.

Also, that's what they're doing with the TV shows.


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epilogue wrote:
Where are you getting that The Last Jedi is considered a miss?


I base that on what they did with Rise of Skywalker. And its gross was about 35% lower than Force Awakens.

It wasn't a miss for me -- it's one of my all-time favorite SW movies.


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Ensign9 wrote:
Coach wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:
https://thedirect.com/article/obi-wan-kenobi-commander-cody-scrapped-role-exclusive


Thanks for this, good read.

Does Solo bombing really preclude these guys from every releasing a new movie again, understanding they will release proper movies for the new trilogy.


I think they're lacking a defined overall strategy. They've fallen into the trap of relying on and responding to fan reaction as a whole. That, combined with pressures to release content on a regular basis, don't make for a situation where you're going to release consistently good product and are willing to take risks. I'd consider releasing films at this point to be a big financial risk for them -- or at least that's how they may perceive it.


I hope they'd take risks again like they did in Last Jedi. But since it did not perform well, I wonder if Disney will ever attempt a new direction.

They should consider completely abandoning the Skywalker world (just nix everything) and concentrate on the new trilogy.


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Coach wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:
Coach wrote:
Ensign9 wrote:
https://thedirect.com/article/obi-wan-kenobi-commander-cody-scrapped-role-exclusive


Thanks for this, good read.

Does Solo bombing really preclude these guys from every releasing a new movie again, understanding they will release proper movies for the new trilogy.


I think they're lacking a defined overall strategy. They've fallen into the trap of relying on and responding to fan reaction as a whole. That, combined with pressures to release content on a regular basis, don't make for a situation where you're going to release consistently good product and are willing to take risks. I'd consider releasing films at this point to be a big financial risk for them -- or at least that's how they may perceive it.


I hope they'd take risks again like they did in Last Jedi. But since it did not perform well, I wonder if Disney will ever attempt a new direction.

They should consider completely abandoning the Skywalker world (just nix everything) and concentrate on the new trilogy.


Agree on ditching the legacy stuff but I wouldn’t go the trilogy route yet. Come up with solid, one-off ideas and focus on executing them at a high level.


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epilogue wrote:
Where are you getting that The Last Jedi is considered a miss?


It opened very strongly but didn't have great legs, presumably because of poor word of mouth.

$1.3 billion is by no means a flop and it's a successful film, but I imagine Disney would have expected it to gross a lot more.

As another poster said, $1 billion is the absolute floor for big blockbusters like Star Wars these days.

I love the movie btw.

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Obi wan > last jedi


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Obi wan > last jedi


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That’s like saying a five is bigger than a three. We already know.


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https://app.frame.io/presentations/e4dc ... 90c03c12a3

The Patterson cut of obiwan. 2 and a half hour movie and apparently so much better


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 Post subject: Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)
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So that new book about young obi wan called Padawan *vaguely* suggest he’s bisexual.


And that’s after setting fire to all the brains of the asshole Star Wars elements like the fandom menace.

Funny to see how easily set off they are


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 Post subject: Re: Disney+: Obi-Wan Kenobi (2022)
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obi one was bisexual yeah

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