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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Han Solo (5/25/2018)
PostPosted: Wed October 18, 2017 10:12 pm 
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If it enhances the character the way rogue one did for a new hope, we'll be happy.


Rogue One enhanced ANH? I'm not a Rogue One hater, but I don't know that I find ANH more enjoyable since we got that movie.

Well, because ANH threw is straight into the thick of a space battle, with little info about what lead to that event.

Rogue One allowed us to see the slow and meandering build up to that moment.

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If it enhances the character the way rogue one did for a new hope, we'll be happy.


Rogue One enhanced ANH? I'm not a Rogue One hater, but I don't know that I find ANH more enjoyable since we got that movie.

Well, because ANH threw is straight into the thick of a space battle, with little info about what lead to that event.

Rogue One allowed us to see the slow and meandering build up to that moment.


Isn't that what Eps 1-3 did?

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No. Big gap in time between 3 and 4.

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That's odd. I'm not a huge rogue one fan by any stretch but I do think it enhances ANH in many ways.


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No. Big gap in time between 3 and 4.


Big gap in time between 3 and Rogue One too.

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No. Big gap in time between 3 and 4.


Big gap in time between 3 and Rogue One too.

Right, but the argument was that R1 enhanced episode 4, not 1-3.

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No. Big gap in time between 3 and 4.


Big gap in time between 3 and Rogue One too.

Right, but the argument was that R1 enhanced episode 4, not 1-3.


... by closing the gap btw 3 and 4. I'm arguing that R1 did little in that regard.

You could argue that it explained the plot hole of why the Death Star was so easy to destroy, but really ... people loved Star Wars for 40 years without caring about that plot hole until the Internet came along.

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No. Big gap in time between 3 and 4.


Big gap in time between 3 and Rogue One too.

Right, but the argument was that R1 enhanced episode 4, not 1-3.


... by closing the gap btw 3 and 4. I'm arguing that R1 did little in that regard.

You could argue that it explained the plot hole of why the Death Star was so easy to destroy, but really ... people loved Star Wars for 40 years without caring about that plot hole until the Internet came along.

I think what dime and everyone else is saying is that R1 enhanced Episode 4, not by closing a gap between 3 and 4, but by showing how those plans came into the hands of the Rebels in the first place. No one else here was arguing that R1 closed the gap between 3 and 4.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Han Solo (5/25/2018)
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Here's what Sarge said, on this page, above:

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Well, because ANH threw is straight into the thick of a space battle, with little info about what lead to that event.

Rogue One allowed us to see the slow and meandering build up to that moment.

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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
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No. Big gap in time between 3 and 4.


Big gap in time between 3 and Rogue One too.

Right, but the argument was that R1 enhanced episode 4, not 1-3.


... by closing the gap btw 3 and 4. I'm arguing that R1 did little in that regard.

You could argue that it explained the plot hole of why the Death Star was so easy to destroy, but really ... people loved Star Wars for 40 years without caring about that plot hole until the Internet came along.

I think what dime and everyone else is saying is that R1 enhanced Episode 4, not by closing a gap between 3 and 4, but by showing how those plans came into the hands of the Rebels in the first place. No one else here was arguing that R1 closed the gap between 3 and 4.


I'll give you/them this. Rogue One was a story that didn't need telling, but when told, was fun and didn't ruin ANH. This gives me faith in Solo.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Han Solo (5/25/2018)
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B wrote:
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No. Big gap in time between 3 and 4.


Big gap in time between 3 and Rogue One too.

Right, but the argument was that R1 enhanced episode 4, not 1-3.


... by closing the gap btw 3 and 4. I'm arguing that R1 did little in that regard.

You could argue that it explained the plot hole of why the Death Star was so easy to destroy, but really ... people loved Star Wars for 40 years without caring about that plot hole until the Internet came along.

I think what dime and everyone else is saying is that R1 enhanced Episode 4, not by closing a gap between 3 and 4, but by showing how those plans came into the hands of the Rebels in the first place. No one else here was arguing that R1 closed the gap between 3 and 4.


I'll give you/them this. Rogue One was a story that didn't need telling, but when told, was fun and didn't ruin ANH. This gives me faith in Solo.

The thing that is different is Solo is taking one of THE iconic characters from the OT and TFA, and having him portrayed by another actor. R1 didn't really do any of this. Some people like consistency with popular characters. It worked for Obi-wan with the prequels, but he wasn't nearly as prevalent a character as Han was in the OT.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Han Solo (5/25/2018)
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
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No. Big gap in time between 3 and 4.


Big gap in time between 3 and Rogue One too.

Right, but the argument was that R1 enhanced episode 4, not 1-3.


... by closing the gap btw 3 and 4. I'm arguing that R1 did little in that regard.

You could argue that it explained the plot hole of why the Death Star was so easy to destroy, but really ... people loved Star Wars for 40 years without caring about that plot hole until the Internet came along.

I think what dime and everyone else is saying is that R1 enhanced Episode 4, not by closing a gap between 3 and 4, but by showing how those plans came into the hands of the Rebels in the first place. No one else here was arguing that R1 closed the gap between 3 and 4.


I'll give you/them this. Rogue One was a story that didn't need telling, but when told, was fun and didn't ruin ANH. This gives me faith in Solo.

The thing that is different is Solo is taking one of THE iconic characters from the OT and TFA, and having him portrayed by another actor. R1 didn't really do any of this. Some people like consistency with popular characters. It worked for Obi-wan with the prequels, but he wasn't nearly as prevalent a character as Han was in the OT.


Quit arguing with me. You've convinced me to give this movie some rope.

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B wrote:
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No. Big gap in time between 3 and 4.


Big gap in time between 3 and Rogue One too.

Right, but the argument was that R1 enhanced episode 4, not 1-3.


... by closing the gap btw 3 and 4. I'm arguing that R1 did little in that regard.

You could argue that it explained the plot hole of why the Death Star was so easy to destroy, but really ... people loved Star Wars for 40 years without caring about that plot hole until the Internet came along.

I think what dime and everyone else is saying is that R1 enhanced Episode 4, not by closing a gap between 3 and 4, but by showing how those plans came into the hands of the Rebels in the first place. No one else here was arguing that R1 closed the gap between 3 and 4.


I'll give you/them this. Rogue One was a story that didn't need telling, but when told, was fun and didn't ruin ANH. This gives me faith in Solo.

The thing that is different is Solo is taking one of THE iconic characters from the OT and TFA, and having him portrayed by another actor. R1 didn't really do any of this. Some people like consistency with popular characters. It worked for Obi-wan with the prequels, but he wasn't nearly as prevalent a character as Han was in the OT.


Quit arguing with me. You've convinced me to give this movie some rope.

I'm not arguing! I'm sharing my concerns! I'm greatly concerned that this movie is going to suck!

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Han Solo (5/25/2018)
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I'm expecting The worst but hoping for the best. It's set ten years before a new hope so that gives the actor some room. It's all hanging on him. I've pretty much no doubt that the film could be fantastic but if he's not right? It's all fucked.


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First look at Han. Woody and Emilia there too

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Han Solo (5/25/2018)
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Can anyone else see that image? I got nothing.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Han Solo (5/25/2018)
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yeah, nothing there, dime

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dimejinky99 wrote:
First look at Han. Woody and Emilia there too

Image


Your link has some security thing to go through. So I downloaded the image. Is this what you were trying to post?

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Han Solo (5/25/2018)
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That's an older pic, too. We've seen that one already. Like right after Howard took over.


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