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 Post subject: Star Wars: Clone Wars
PostPosted: Wed March 09, 2016 9:57 pm 
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I'm in season two of clone wars and one thing I'm not getting. The clones all seem super smart but obviously programmed to be totally obedient to their superiors. But how Could they have executed order 66 when they're most obedient to obi wan or whichever Jedi was leading their respective units?

I'm assuming they've never individually met the chancellor/emperor so why suddenly follow his order?

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Episode VII: The Force Awakens (2015)
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Wouldn't that be some kind of subconscious programming that kicks in on command?

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Yeah maybe. I'm hoping they set up the explanation as the series goes on. I'm only midway through season two

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That doesn't need to be explained. They're made.

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Wouldn't that be some kind of subconscious programming that kicks in on command?

that's exactly what it is


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Yeah maybe. I'm hoping they set up the explanation as the series goes on. I'm only midway through season two


Having watched all of Clone Wars, I can tell you that you're not going to get a lot of answers. There are some hints about it. One episode in particular where it activates unexpected for one of the soldiers. But ... subconscious programming. Done.

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Been a while since we created a new Star Wars thread. :thumbsup:

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Been a while since we created a new Star Wars thread. :thumbsup:


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B wrote:
Wouldn't that be some kind of subconscious programming that kicks in on command?

that's exactly what it is


Yeah its been pretty firmly established.


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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Clone Wars
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What Clone Wars did exceptionally well was take a stupid idea (if the Republic uses a clone army then it's like no one is dying so it won't be upsetting right?) and unwrite it. The Jedi/Sith stuff is hit or miss (although better nearer the end), but they did a great job of humanizing the clones by giving them unique personalities and a helping of bitterness about being treated as disposable trash. I like that "I am going to be an individual" is a choice they have to actively make and act on, and therefore something they guard intensely.

There are a handful of stories that really break down the implications of all that, too. A general who is willing to amass huge clone casualties for small gains, and their total inability to prevent that. A clone who appears to have a behavioral error, and is taken back to Kamino to be dissected without any rights of his own. It's the sort of "let's explore the moral ambiguity of this seemingly 'better' approach to war" writing that's probably more associated with Star Trek than anything, but some of the more interesting stories to come out of Star Wars are in those Clone episodes. I suppose a lot of options open up when you step away from Jedi stuff and see what else is out there.

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 Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Clone Wars
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Thanks lads.

I really enjoyed the episode in rebels where they're stuck in some desert planet and a bunch of older gay clones help them out. That was fun.

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Thanks lads.

I really enjoyed the episode in rebels where they're stuck in some desert planet and a bunch of older gay clones help them out. That was fun.

I always enjoyed the summary that Star Wars is the story of an old man who takes a younger man to a bar.

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Thanks lads.

I really enjoyed the episode in rebels where they're stuck in some desert planet and a bunch of older gay clones help them out. That was fun.

I always enjoyed the summary that Star Wars is the story of an old man who takes a younger man to a bar.



Never thought of that. And they meet a bear

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This gets really great in season three. The stuff about the sisters and Mauls tribe. Those two episodes are as good as films.

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Sure is an alarming amount of racial stereotyping in this show.

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Sure is an alarming amount of racial stereotyping in this show.

please, go on...


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Sure is an alarming amount of racial stereotyping in this show.

please, go on...


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