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Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Return of the Jedi
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Author:  dimejinky99 [ Fri May 03, 2019 6:36 pm ]
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This is one of my favourite pods. All about classic films. They have finally done return of the Jedi:) I can’t wait to hear this. You guys might love it give it a spin :)



https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/t ... 0437115582
Author:  dimejinky99 [ Fri May 03, 2019 7:01 pm ]
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* this is already a super fun listen :) they have stuff I wasn’t aware of and totally different perspectives I never thought of.
It’s great :)

The voice of Boush was the same woman did the voice for ET!!
Author:  epilogue [ Sat May 04, 2019 3:01 pm ]
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dimejinky99 wrote:
This is one of my favourite pods. All about classic films. They have finally done return of the Jedi:) I can’t wait to hear this. You guys might love it give it a spin :)



https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/t ... 0437115582

This was a good listen but man do I hate John Rocha.
Author:  dimejinky99 [ Sat May 04, 2019 5:12 pm ]
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durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
This is one of my favourite pods. All about classic films. They have finally done return of the Jedi:) I can’t wait to hear this. You guys might love it give it a spin :)



https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/t ... 0437115582

This was a good listen but man do I hate John Rocha.



Really? I like john. Him and ken are literally the only two I can bear to listen to from Collider
Author:  epilogue [ Sat May 04, 2019 7:26 pm ]
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dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
This is one of my favourite pods. All about classic films. They have finally done return of the Jedi:) I can’t wait to hear this. You guys might love it give it a spin :)



https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/t ... 0437115582

This was a good listen but man do I hate John Rocha.



Really? I like john. Him and ken are literally the only two I can bear to listen to from Collider

He's a blowhard. There is no breadth or depth to his criticism. He's defensive. He's a hypocrite and an opportunist. Worst of all, he's SUPER sexist. His ideas of masculinity and femininity are laughable when they aren't downright offensive. You hear it in this very podcast episode you linked to. He grosses me out and infuriates me.
Author:  dimejinky99 [ Sat May 04, 2019 7:29 pm ]
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durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
This is one of my favourite pods. All about classic films. They have finally done return of the Jedi:) I can’t wait to hear this. You guys might love it give it a spin :)



https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/t ... 0437115582

This was a good listen but man do I hate John Rocha.



Really? I like john. Him and ken are literally the only two I can bear to listen to from Collider

He's a blowhard. There is no breadth or depth to his criticism. He's defensive. He's a hypocrite and an opportunist. Worst of all, he's SUPER sexist. His ideas of masculinity and femininity are laughable when they aren't downright offensive. You hear it in this very podcast episode you linked to. He grosses me out and infuriates me.



That conversation pissed me off as a whole. I can’t stand putting modern politics or agendas on something this old. It looks like showboating for the sake of it. Complaining about it now achieves absolutely nothing.
I don’t listen to enough of stuff he’s on to form the same or opposite opinion but I’ll take your word for it.
Author:  epilogue [ Sat May 04, 2019 7:36 pm ]
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dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
durdencommatyler wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
This is one of my favourite pods. All about classic films. They have finally done return of the Jedi:) I can’t wait to hear this. You guys might love it give it a spin :)



https://podcasts.apple.com/ie/podcast/t ... 0437115582

This was a good listen but man do I hate John Rocha.



Really? I like john. Him and ken are literally the only two I can bear to listen to from Collider

He's a blowhard. There is no breadth or depth to his criticism. He's defensive. He's a hypocrite and an opportunist. Worst of all, he's SUPER sexist. His ideas of masculinity and femininity are laughable when they aren't downright offensive. You hear it in this very podcast episode you linked to. He grosses me out and infuriates me.



That conversation pissed me off as a whole. I can’t stand putting modern politics or agendas on something this old. It looks like showboating for the sake of it. Complaining about it now achieves absolutely nothing.
I don’t listen to enough of stuff he’s on to form the same or opposite opinion but I’ll take your word for it.

If you like the guy, I'm not trying to turn you. I've just never found much value in what he has to say. He's way too biased and prone to reductionist bullshit. He often marginalizes women, especially at the expense of what he thinks manhood is.

Obviously, that's a big issue with me. But I don't expect everyone to feel the same way. In a world where there are a billion commentators and critics, I just don't have time to deal with people like that. There are so many better and more interesting commentators.

BUT... having said all of that... I did really like the majority of the episode. There were a lot of interesting things that I learned and I like hearing people talk about structure and craft. So there's a lot to like in the ep.
Author:  dimejinky99 [ Sat May 04, 2019 7:46 pm ]
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Ah I know you weren’t. As you know I avoid almost everything /everyone out of Collider.
Blow hards is a pretty perfect summation of the whole lot of them.
But yeah there was ton of fun stuff in this episode. I really like this pod generally.
Author:  epilogue [ Sat May 04, 2019 7:58 pm ]
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dimejinky99 wrote:
Ah I know you weren’t. As you know I avoid almost everything /everyone out of Collider.
Blow hards is a pretty perfect summation of the whole lot of them.
But yeah there was ton of fun stuff in this episode. I really like this pod generally.

I'll definitely give a few more eps a listen. Thanks for sharing the pod!
Author:  LoathedVermin72 [ Tue May 07, 2019 5:45 pm ]
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The only changes in any of the OT movies I think improved upon the original version:

-Changing Han’s line, “It’s all right, trust me,” to, “It’s all right, I can see a lot better.”

-Replacing “Yub-Nub” with that wonderful new score.
Author:  dimejinky99 [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:19 pm ]
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
The only changes in any of the OT movies I think improved upon the original version:

-Changing Han’s line, “It’s all right, trust me,” to, “It’s all right, I can see a lot better.”

-Replacing “Yub-Nub” with that wonderful new score.



Well you’re wrong.

Empire benefited most and best of the OT from the changes.
Look at the upgraded cloud city sequence if you doubt that.
Which you undoubtedly do.
Author:  LoathedVermin72 [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:28 pm ]
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dimejinky99 wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
The only changes in any of the OT movies I think improved upon the original version:

-Changing Han’s line, “It’s all right, trust me,” to, “It’s all right, I can see a lot better.”

-Replacing “Yub-Nub” with that wonderful new score.



Well you’re wrong.

Empire benefited most and best of the OT from the changes.
Look at the upgraded cloud city sequence if you doubt that.
Which you undoubtedly do.

What is your problem
Author:  LoathedVermin72 [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:29 pm ]
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Anyway yeah I hate all the Empire changes, especially Cloud City.
Author:  dimejinky99 [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:35 pm ]
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But they’re digitally clean and all upgraded and super shiny and crisp
Author:  E.H. Ruddock [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:36 pm ]
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dimejinky99 wrote:
But they’re digitally clean and all upgraded and super shiny and crisp

I don't think you've been paying attention to what LV likes, then, dime.
Author:  LoathedVermin72 [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:37 pm ]
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dimejinky99 wrote:
But they’re digitally clean and all upgraded and super shiny and crisp

Are you talking about picture quality or the CGI revisions?
Author:  dimejinky99 [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:42 pm ]
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
But they’re digitally clean and all upgraded and super shiny and crisp

I don't think you've been paying attention to what LV likes, then, dime.



And I don’t care. Nobody likes the special editions. My point was really only empire got any benefit at all. Zero embarrassing additions like dumb pop songs or crap cgi jabbas installed.
Author:  LoathedVermin72 [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:43 pm ]
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Yet I would argue additions like the Wampa and Ian McDiarmid ruined some of the series’ most menacing and unsettling sequences.

Luke’s scream is also really embarrassing.
Author:  dimejinky99 [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:48 pm ]
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Yet I would argue additions like the Wampa and Ian McDiarmid ruined some of the series’ most menacing and unsettling sequences.

Luke’s scream is also really embarrassing.


There’s a weird one for you.

Would you want 4K unaltered original cut no alterations no additions nothing.
Just the prints that were shown in 77?

You’d see how threadbare the whole thing was on every level.

Does anyone want that?
Author:  LoathedVermin72 [ Tue May 07, 2019 6:51 pm ]
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dimejinky99 wrote:
LoathedVermin72 wrote:
Yet I would argue additions like the Wampa and Ian McDiarmid ruined some of the series’ most menacing and unsettling sequences.

Luke’s scream is also really embarrassing.


There’s a weird one for you.

Would you want 4K unaltered original cut no alterations no additions nothing.
Just the prints that were shown in 77?

You’d see how threadbare the whole thing was on every level.

Does anyone want that?

Well, I want them taken from the OCN, not prints, but, of course, yes. Those were the movies I fell in love with.

They also already exist in the form of projects 4K77, 4K80, and 4K83. Taken from prints, not the OCN, unfortunately, but they exist. That’s what EVERYONE wants. Who wouldn’t?
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