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Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Return of the Jedi
Posted: Mon January 23, 2017 4:29 pm
Production Police
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 47163 Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
So after watching this last night, plus Rogue One last week and TFA the week before that, I had a thought: A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back are basically the only two pure SW movies in the sense that they don't seem to have been tinkered with because of fan service, merchandising, etc. With ROJ we get the Ewoks, plus the new scenes Lucas added; with TFA we get all sorts of retreading; and with R1 we get a bunch of unnecessary cameos.
Also, I'd rank 'em like this now:
A New Hope Empire Strikes Back Rogue One Return of the Jedi The Force Awakens who cares
Rank your who cares...
Battle for Endor Ewoks Adventure Phantom Menace Revenge of the Sith Attack of the Clones
So after watching this last night, plus Rogue One last week and TFA the week before that, I had a thought: A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back are basically the only two pure SW movies in the sense that they don't seem to have been tinkered with because of fan service, merchandising, etc. With ROJ we get the Ewoks, plus the new scenes Lucas added; with TFA we get all sorts of retreading; and with R1 we get a bunch of unnecessary cameos.
Also, I'd rank 'em like this now:
A New Hope Empire Strikes Back Rogue One Return of the Jedi The Force Awakens who cares
Rank your who cares...
Battle for Endor Ewoks Adventure Phantom Menace Revenge of the Sith Attack of the Clones
What about Rebels? Is it your number one? CHOOOOOPPPPPAAAAA!
Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Return of the Jedi
Posted: Mon January 23, 2017 4:53 pm
Production Police
Joined: Tue September 24, 2013 5:56 pm Posts: 47163 Location: In the oatmeal aisle wearing a Shellac shirt
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
tragabigzanda wrote:
So after watching this last night, plus Rogue One last week and TFA the week before that, I had a thought: A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back are basically the only two pure SW movies in the sense that they don't seem to have been tinkered with because of fan service, merchandising, etc. With ROJ we get the Ewoks, plus the new scenes Lucas added; with TFA we get all sorts of retreading; and with R1 we get a bunch of unnecessary cameos.
Also, I'd rank 'em like this now:
A New Hope Empire Strikes Back Rogue One Return of the Jedi The Force Awakens who cares
Rank your who cares...
Battle for Endor Ewoks Adventure Phantom Menace Revenge of the Sith Attack of the Clones
What about Rebels? Is it your number one? CHOOOOOPPPPPAAAAA!
Isn't that an episodic cartoon? Anyway, I've never seen it.
Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Return of the Jedi
Posted: Thu January 26, 2017 5:43 am
A Return To Form
Joined: Tue January 29, 2013 3:45 am Posts: 190
When ROTJ came out I was still a kid and even I knew it had jumped the shark. The whole series of movies continues to fall into the big laser ball of death trap and ROTJ was the first time where it was like "really another Death Star?" The ewoks while cute at the time, were clearly for really young kids which felt cheap after Empire, and the whole Luke rescuing Han scenario is wrought with stupidity. A ridiculously elaborate plan from a Jedi who could have just gone in there and handled it Jedi style. Jabba was cool for the time, but Boba Fett going down like a chump also hurts the movie. As mentioned, the chit chat with Luke and Vader is well polished, but completely unbelievable. "Yeah, I am the most important person in the galaxy but I am going to hand myself over to my evil Dad and his boss--it will all work out fine." Sounds good to me. Can't watch it all the way through anymore. Whereas I have watched ANH and Empire many times straight through as an adult.
Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Return of the Jedi
Posted: Sun February 19, 2017 1:47 am
The Master
Joined: Sun May 25, 2014 9:32 pm Posts: 31614 Location: Garbage Dump
VinylGuy wrote:
Watching this one....man, those imperial shots are gorgeous...Palpatine is fuckin badass here....
What about those rebels who died to get the info on the new Death Star? Someone said Rogue One: next generation?
I really love the cinematography and production design. The whole movie has such a slick look. Inky blacks, deep colors, reflective surfaces. It's stunning.
Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Return of the Jedi
Posted: Sun February 19, 2017 3:04 am
jeeeesus relax already
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 5:10 pm Posts: 36279
It really is...wow, what a great film...I still love Empire a little bit more, but this movie is just perfect too. Luke's arc is so complex, he won but at the same time he just lost his father and his mentor too. Its incredibly sad. Vader might redeem himself with Palpatine's death but he also lost the chance to overcome his flaws with the dark side and all he can do is die.
Im eager to know what happened to Palpatine in this new canon thing...anyone know if he is really dead?
Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Return of the Jedi
Posted: Sun February 19, 2017 5:01 am
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Fri March 22, 2013 7:20 pm Posts: 8597 Location: 41.1716° S, 174.8248° E
VinylGuy wrote:
It really is...wow, what a great film...I still love Empire a little bit more, but this movie is just perfect too. Luke's arc is so complex, he won but at the same time he just lost his father and his mentor too. Its incredibly sad. Vader might redeem himself with Palpatine's death but he also lost the chance to overcome his flaws with the dark side and all he can do is die.
Im eager to know what happened to Palpatine in this new canon thing...anyone know if he is really dead?
He better be, not only did he get thrown down that chasm, but the death star blew up around him too
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Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Return of the Jedi
Posted: Mon February 20, 2017 11:50 am
what on earth am I talking about
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am Posts: 35489
There were no Rebels who stole the plans to the second Death Star. The emperor leaked the plans to the bothans. He wanted to put an end to the rebellion in one final act. So he set a big trap. He didn't factor in luke being there though.
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