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| Author: | B [ Wed January 20, 2016 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
watch the movie and share your thoughts. |
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Thu November 03, 2016 12:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
Wow. I'd never seen these. The Han and Leia stuff is great |
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Sun December 04, 2016 6:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
This film is actually flawless. Tryna pick it apart and I can't. Every single shot and line of dialogue and sequence works. Perfectly. |
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| Author: | wease [ Sun December 04, 2016 6:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
Unless you compare it to the original movie of which it is a sequel. Then there is a pretty big line of dialogue that totally contradicts what was said before. And none of this "certain point of view" bullshit. Any student of his scripts and story up to that point has Vader and Father Skywalker as two separate people. That said, it is still by far my favorite film of the franchise. Dagobah/Bespin Luke is the best character out of all of it. |
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Sun December 04, 2016 6:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
wease wrote: Unless you compare it to the original movie of which it is a sequel. Then there is a pretty big line of dialogue that totally contradicts what was said before. And none of this "certain point of view" bullshit. Any student of his scripts and story up to that point has Vader and Father Skywalker as two separate people. That said, it is still by far my favorite film of the franchise. Dagobah/Bespin Luke is the best character out of all of it. You're loving Star Wars wrong. But it's ok. That's how you love it it's ok. |
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| Author: | wease [ Sun December 04, 2016 6:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
dimejinky99 wrote: wease wrote: Unless you compare it to the original movie of which it is a sequel. Then there is a pretty big line of dialogue that totally contradicts what was said before. And none of this "certain point of view" bullshit. Any student of his scripts and story up to that point has Vader and Father Skywalker as two separate people. That said, it is still by far my favorite film of the franchise. Dagobah/Bespin Luke is the best character out of all of it. You're loving Star Wars wrong. But it's ok. That's how you love it it's ok. I'm not loving anything wrong. Just presenting facts and not drinking the Kool Aid. |
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Sun December 04, 2016 7:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
wease wrote: dimejinky99 wrote: wease wrote: Unless you compare it to the original movie of which it is a sequel. Then there is a pretty big line of dialogue that totally contradicts what was said before. And none of this "certain point of view" bullshit. Any student of his scripts and story up to that point has Vader and Father Skywalker as two separate people. That said, it is still by far my favorite film of the franchise. Dagobah/Bespin Luke is the best character out of all of it. You're loving Star Wars wrong. But it's ok. That's how you love it it's ok. I'm not loving anything wrong. Just presenting facts and not drinking the Kool Aid. You're dragging George's sketches of ideas into canon. That's a whole different thing. They aren't canon. |
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| Author: | wease [ Sun December 04, 2016 7:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
dimejinky99 wrote: wease wrote: dimejinky99 wrote: wease wrote: Unless you compare it to the original movie of which it is a sequel. Then there is a pretty big line of dialogue that totally contradicts what was said before. And none of this "certain point of view" bullshit. Any student of his scripts and story up to that point has Vader and Father Skywalker as two separate people. That said, it is still by far my favorite film of the franchise. Dagobah/Bespin Luke is the best character out of all of it. You're loving Star Wars wrong. But it's ok. That's how you love it it's ok. I'm not loving anything wrong. Just presenting facts and not drinking the Kool Aid. You're dragging George's sketches of ideas into canon. That's a whole different thing. They aren't canon. I never said they were. Old Ben Kenobi did. Then Vader turned him into a liar. I'm not disputing what's canon and what's not. Vader is Luke's father. No denial here. But to suggest them being separate beings as a "sketch of an idea" is ludicrous and incredibly naive. Especially, when Ben's line from the first movie is taken into consideration. You really need to read the books I've recommended before arguing that it was all some divine plan he adhered to from start to finish. |
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Mon December 05, 2016 1:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
Remind me the names? I'll get em. |
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| Author: | wease [ Mon December 05, 2016 2:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
The three Making Of books by JW Rinzler. The Secret History of Star Wars by Michael Kaminski. This one is download only right now I believe. All four books are absolutely indispensable and critical if you really want to know how the first trilogy was made. There's also a book and/or site that collects ALL the scripts for all three movies. (Actually, the site may even include the prequel scripts now. I'm not sure as it's been quite a while since I've been to it and I don't even remember what it's called.) They will be the only books you read when you get them and you will NOT regret it. |
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| Author: | dimejinky99 [ Mon December 05, 2016 2:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
Cool thanks. Unlikely to find the making of books unless I do eBay. Adding to the how Star Wars conquered the universe and the world according to Star Wars will only be good. They were both brilliant. |
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| Author: | wease [ Mon December 05, 2016 4:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
All 3 are on Amazon. |
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| Author: | E.H. Ruddock [ Sun December 18, 2016 4:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
Before Luke passes out from being cold on Hoth, he sees obi wan's force ghost who tells him to go see master yoda, the Jedi who instructed him. What about qui Gon? |
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| Author: | bada [ Sun December 18, 2016 4:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
Are you watching it on TNT too Ruddo? |
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| Author: | E.H. Ruddock [ Sun December 18, 2016 4:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
Haha yes |
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| Author: | bada [ Sun December 18, 2016 4:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
Watching Empire the thing I notice the most is the girl from Stranger Things looks just like Princess Leia. |
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| Author: | bada [ Sun December 18, 2016 4:13 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
E.H. Ruddock wrote: Haha yes I'm dying to go to sleep but I keep saying 5 more minutes. |
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| Author: | E.H. Ruddock [ Sun December 18, 2016 4:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
I know, I want to go to bed |
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| Author: | Norris [ Sun December 18, 2016 4:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
It just started too, you're fucked. |
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| Author: | wease [ Sun December 18, 2016 4:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back |
E.H. Ruddock wrote: Before Luke passes out from being cold on Hoth, he sees obi wan's force ghost who tells him to go see master yoda, the Jedi who instructed him. What about qui Gon? Yoda taught the younglings before they were assigned to a master. |
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