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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
PostPosted: Sun December 18, 2016 4:34 am 
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Before Luke passes out from being cold on Hoth, he sees obi wan's force ghost who tells him to go see master yoda, the Jedi who instructed him. What about qui Gon?

Yoda taught the younglings before they were assigned to a master.

And Qui-Gon is dead. Yoda is not.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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wease wrote:
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Before Luke passes out from being cold on Hoth, he sees obi wan's force ghost who tells him to go see master yoda, the Jedi who instructed him. What about qui Gon?

Yoda taught the younglings before they were assigned to a master.

And Qui-Gon is dead. Yoda is not.

I understand all of that but can't a dead Jedi still get some credit?

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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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You want them to do another special edition and drop his name in?

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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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You want them to do another special edition and drop his name in?

That would be nice, yes

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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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are there any plans for a qui gon origin story film?

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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
are there any plans for a qui gon origin story film?

Maybe I'll get to it after I produce the Grievous stand alone

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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
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are there any plans for a qui gon origin story film?

Maybe I'll get to it after I produce the Grievous stand alone

oh ok...let me know if you need any help

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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
E.H. Ruddock wrote:
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are there any plans for a qui gon origin story film?

Maybe I'll get to it after I produce the Grievous stand alone

oh ok...let me know if you need any help

Yeah I might. I'm not as knowledgeable about him as I am Grievous

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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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Unless you compare it to the original movie of which it is a sequel. Then there is a pretty big line of dialogue that totally contradicts what was said before. And none of this "certain point of view" bullshit. Any student of his scripts and story up to that point has Vader and Father Skywalker as two separate people.

That said, it is still by far my favorite film of the franchise. Dagobah/Bespin Luke is the best character out of all of it.



You're loving Star Wars wrong. But it's ok. That's how you love it it's ok.


I'm not loving anything wrong. Just presenting facts and not drinking the Kool Aid.



You're dragging George's sketches of ideas into canon. That's a whole different thing. They aren't canon.


I never said they were. Old Ben Kenobi did. Then Vader turned him into a liar.

I'm not disputing what's canon and what's not. Vader is Luke's father. No denial here. But to suggest them being separate beings as a "sketch of an idea" is ludicrous and incredibly naive. Especially, when Ben's line from the first movie is taken into consideration.

You really need to read the books I've recommended before arguing that it was all some divine plan he adhered to from start to finish.

Who cares, it made for a better movie/trilogy/franchise.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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"you really need to read the books," in any context, is the dumbest argument ever when we're talking about movies

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it also makes you sound like an insufferable fanboy tool

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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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spike wrote:
wease wrote:
dimejinky99 wrote:
wease wrote:
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wease wrote:
Unless you compare it to the original movie of which it is a sequel. Then there is a pretty big line of dialogue that totally contradicts what was said before. And none of this "certain point of view" bullshit. Any student of his scripts and story up to that point has Vader and Father Skywalker as two separate people.

That said, it is still by far my favorite film of the franchise. Dagobah/Bespin Luke is the best character out of all of it.



You're loving Star Wars wrong. But it's ok. That's how you love it it's ok.


I'm not loving anything wrong. Just presenting facts and not drinking the Kool Aid.



You're dragging George's sketches of ideas into canon. That's a whole different thing. They aren't canon.


I never said they were. Old Ben Kenobi did. Then Vader turned him into a liar.

I'm not disputing what's canon and what's not. Vader is Luke's father. No denial here. But to suggest them being separate beings as a "sketch of an idea" is ludicrous and incredibly naive. Especially, when Ben's line from the first movie is taken into consideration.

You really need to read the books I've recommended before arguing that it was all some divine plan he adhered to from start to finish.

Who cares, it made for a better movie/trilogy/franchise.


I never said it didn't.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
it also makes you sound like an insufferable fanboy tool

Maybe. I just like to read about what happens behind the scenes. Dime seems like a dude that would like that, too. Thought he might like to read them. What's wrong with that?


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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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I should have been a better student of the scripts

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
I should have been a better student of the scripts

Depends on your argument.


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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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what if gerge write 12 episodes

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LoathedVermin72 wrote:
what if gerge write 12 episodes


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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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After Rogue One i decided to watch a new hope to see how they mashed together..and yesterday i felt like going for this one.

Man, such a beautiful movie. Every frame is gorgeous. The designs are amazing, every main character has an interesting arc, Vader is such a badass figure here..Luke, Han....this is a masterpiece in its own right.

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After Rogue One i decided to watch a new hope to see how they mashed together..and yesterday i felt like going for this one.

Man, such a beautiful movie. Every frame is gorgeous. The designs are amazing, every main character has an interesting arc, Vader is such a badass figure here..Luke, Han....this is a masterpiece in its own right.



Fanboism aside, it is consistently counted amongst the greatest films ever made for very good reasons. Those you mentioned and a great many more.

It's got absolutely everything.

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 Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
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yeah, i wasnt even thinking about the film as a Star Wars movie.

Its just a masterpiece.

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