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In all honesty, I just don't think this is a big deal. If someone hadn't pointed it out, I would never know. Of all the things to bemoan about the SE, this one feels pretty minor.
Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
Posted: Fri February 01, 2019 7:38 pm
what on earth am I talking about
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I *think* the conversation palps and Vader have about luke in that scene is different in the special edition than that in the original. fairly sure it’s dofferent. Maybe even a line or two longer. I’ll have to check. I’m gonna have to check. Pretty sure James earl jones was part of doing extra dialogue for the SE.
It’s also both funny and sad that it is Luke who is the difficult one in both Empire and TLJ. Yoda has to be convinced by Obi-Wan, since Yoda thinks Luke is too old and impatient to be trained.
Post subject: Re: Let's Actually Watch the Movie: Empire Strikes Back
Posted: Sat April 20, 2019 7:21 pm
what on earth am I talking about
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am Posts: 35489
Anders wrote:
It’s also both funny and sad that it is Luke who is the difficult one in both Empire and TLJ. Yoda has to be convinced by Obi-Wan, since Yoda thinks Luke is too old and impatient to be trained.
He’s not difficult. He wants to save his friends. That is totally unselfish and human and understandable He’s not difficult in TLJ either but let’s not.
It’s also both funny and sad that it is Luke who is the difficult one in both Empire and TLJ. Yoda has to be convinced by Obi-Wan, since Yoda thinks Luke is too old and impatient to be trained.
He’s not difficult. He wants to save his friends. That is totally unselfish and human and understandable He’s not difficult in TLJ either but let’s not.
He is difficult in TESB, but not because he wants to help his friends. We can take the TLJ discussion another time.
The quotes only show half the story, it may be understandable, and we might have reacted the same way, but he is never as calm as Obi-Wan or Rey.
Yoda : Ready are you? What know you of ready? For eight hundred years have I trained Jedi. My own counsel will I keep on who is to be trained. A Jedi must have the deepest commitment, the most serious mind. This one a long time have I watched. All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was. Hmm? What he was doing. Hmph! Adventure. Heh! Excitement. Heh! A Jedi craves not these things. You are reckless!
Yoda : Why wish you become Jedi? Luke : Well, mostly because of my father, I guess. Yoda : Ahh... father. Powerful Jedi was he. Powerful Jedi. Luke : [suspcious] Oh, come on! How can you know my father? You don't even know who I am. Oh, I don't even know what I'm doing here! We're wasting our time! Yoda : [Looking away from Luke] I cannot teach him. The boy has no patience. Obi-Wan : [voice-over] He will learn patience. Yoda : Much anger in him... like his father. Obi-Wan : [voice] Was I any different when you taught me?
[Luke's ship sinks into the mud] Luke : We'll never get it out now! Yoda : So certain are you. Always with you what cannot be done. Hear you nothing that I say?
Yoda : I am wondering, why are you here? Luke : I'm looking for someone. Yoda : Looking? Found someone, you have, I would say, hmmm? Luke : Right... Yoda : Help you I can. Yes, mmmm. Luke : I don't think so. I'm looking for a great warrior. Yoda : Ohhh. Great warrior. [laughs and shakes his head] Yoda : Wars not make one great.
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