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Discuss what you love about them, what you hate about them, what you wish would have happened, etc...

Ruddo said I have to have this guy in the OP, so here you go:

It's a cool idea, but that is really stretching the meaning of the word NEARLY to its limits.

Monkey_Driven wrote:

http://www.gamesradar.com/george-lucas-nearly-wrote-perfect-prequel-trilogy-he-just-didnt-seem-notice/

Intriguing...

woah, i've had some of these same thoughts, but that guy articulates them very well.

I re-watched Episode III a few days ago, and it wasn't as laughably bad as I remembered. The dialogue and acting is still horrendous, and all the Three Stooges droid humor is unbearable, but there's some stuff to like. Some brief thoughts:

I think the CG environments are actually quite impressive for the most part, and feel more visionary and immersive than anything in TFA. Unfortunately, a lot of the other CG effects (like actual characters) don't fare as well.

Really impressive sound design. This is another area where the prequels excelled above TFA. Like they did in the OT, Lucas and co. managed to create a seemingly endless supply of singular sounds (the calls of that lizard-alien Obi-Wan rides, for example).

Anakin's turn to the dark side is rushed and unconvincing, but again, I appreciate the attempt. I like that you see him kind of bounce back and forth between loyalty to Palpatine and the Jedi. The seduction scenes between him and Palpatine are compelling, even though they could have been better-executed. Palpatine's monologue at the bubble opera is the highlight. McDiarmid is great (until he turns into the Emperor, at which time he gets goofy).

The action set-pieces are legitimately epic and impressive, and I would say that goes for all the prequels. These scenes are where the movies shine (which may be because they involve very little dialogue and acting).

And I know I'm alone on this, but I appreciate all the political minutiae. It makes sense that we see more of that during the build-up to war (prequels) and not during the war (OT). It's by no means particularly well-executed, but I appreciate the effort.

sees TFA, rewatches prequels and decides they're cool. classic LV.

LoathedVermin72 wrote:

I kinda agree with most of this.

(although the martial arts saber fights have not aged well)

stip wrote:

(although the martial arts saber fights have not aged well)

Yeah I find the lightsaber duels much more satisfying in 4-7 as opposed to 1-3. Sword fights should be exhausting not effortless.

Author:	darth_vedder [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:04 pm ]
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Discuss what you love about them, what you hate about them, what you wish would have happened, etc... Ruddo said I have to have this guy in the OP, so here you go:

Author:	E.H. Ruddock [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:05 pm ]
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darth_vedder wrote: Discuss what you love about them, what you hate about them, what you wish would have happened, etc... Ruddo said I have to have this guy in the OP, so here you go: Ha, I was kidding. But I won't complain!

Author:	Monkey_Driven [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:06 pm ]
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http://www.gamesradar.com/george-lucas-nearly-wrote-perfect-prequel-trilogy-he-just-didnt-seem-notice/ Intriguing...

Author:	stip [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:19 pm ]
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It's a cool idea, but that is really stretching the meaning of the word NEARLY to its limits.

Author:	spike [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:20 pm ]
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Monkey_Driven wrote: http://www.gamesradar.com/george-lucas-nearly-wrote-perfect-prequel-trilogy-he-just-didnt-seem-notice/ Intriguing... woah, i've had some of these same thoughts, but that guy articulates them very well.

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Author:	spike [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:21 pm ]
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stip wrote: It's a cool idea, but that is really stretching the meaning of the word NEARLY to its limits. haha, agreed. 70s GL could've pulled this off, but 90s GL was too preoccupied with catering to the masses.

Author:	Strat [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:22 pm ]
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spike wrote: Monkey_Driven wrote: http://www.gamesradar.com/george-lucas-nearly-wrote-perfect-prequel-trilogy-he-just-didnt-seem-notice/ Intriguing... woah, i've had some of these same thoughts, but that guy articulates them very well. Reading that just made me realize even more how bad the prequels are. Good lord.

Author:	LoathedVermin72 [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:24 pm ]
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I re-watched Episode III a few days ago, and it wasn't as laughably bad as I remembered. The dialogue and acting is still horrendous, and all the Three Stooges droid humor is unbearable, but there's some stuff to like. Some brief thoughts: I think the CG environments are actually quite impressive for the most part, and feel more visionary and immersive than anything in TFA. Unfortunately, a lot of the other CG effects (like actual characters) don't fare as well. Really impressive sound design. This is another area where the prequels excelled above TFA. Like they did in the OT, Lucas and co. managed to create a seemingly endless supply of singular sounds (the calls of that lizard-alien Obi-Wan rides, for example). Anakin's turn to the dark side is rushed and unconvincing, but again, I appreciate the attempt. I like that you see him kind of bounce back and forth between loyalty to Palpatine and the Jedi. The seduction scenes between him and Palpatine are compelling, even though they could have been better-executed. Palpatine's monologue at the bubble opera is the highlight. McDiarmid is great (until he turns into the Emperor, at which time he gets goofy). The action set-pieces are legitimately epic and impressive, and I would say that goes for all the prequels. These scenes are where the movies shine (which may be because they involve very little dialogue and acting). And I know I'm alone on this, but I appreciate all the political minutiae. It makes sense that we see more of that during the build-up to war (prequels) and not during the war (OT). It's by no means particularly well-executed, but I appreciate the effort.

Author:	stip [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:26 pm ]
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I like the idea of the political minutiae in theory, but this was so poorly executed that it became a huge hindrance. The sound design is very good, and while the fights are well staged (although the martial arts saber fights have not aged well) I just don't care who wins

Author:	@SkitchP [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:26 pm ]
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LoathedVermin72 wrote: I re-watched Episode III a few days ago, and it wasn't as laughably bad as I remembered. The dialogue and acting is still horrendous, and all the Three Stooges droid humor is unbearable, but there's some stuff to like. Some brief thoughts: I think the CG environments are actually quite impressive for the most part, and feel more visionary and immersive than anything in TFA. Unfortunately, a lot of the other CG effects (like actual characters) don't fare as well. Really impressive sound design. This is another area where the prequels excelled above TFA. Like they did in the OT, Lucas and co. managed to create a seemingly endless supply of singular sounds (the calls of that lizard-alien Obi-Wan rides, for example). Anakin's turn to the dark side is rushed and unconvincing, but again, I appreciate the attempt. I like that you see him kind of bounce back and forth between loyalty to Palpatine and the Jedi. The seduction scenes between him and Palpatine are compelling, even though they could have been better-executed. Palpatine's monologue at the bubble opera is the highlight. McDiarmid is great (until he turns into the Emperor, at which time he gets goofy). The action set-pieces are legitimately epic and impressive, and I would say that goes for all the prequels. These scenes are where the movies shine (which may be because they involve very little dialogue and acting). And I know I'm alone on this, but I appreciate all the political minutiae. It makes sense that we see more of that during the build-up to war (prequels) and not during the war (OT). It's by no means particularly well-executed, but I appreciate the effort. I kinda agree with most of this.

Author:	Strat [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:26 pm ]
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I couldnt stand that lizard thing Obi Wan rides and the sound it makes. I remember even the first time being upset over it and wishing the pain would end.

Author:	spike [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:29 pm ]
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sees TFA, rewatches prequels and decides they're cool. classic LV.

Author:	stip [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:38 pm ]
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The best way to experience the prequels:

Author:	stip [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:40 pm ]
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The second best way to experience the prequels (and a new hope):

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Author:	lennytheweedwhacker [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:40 pm ]
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@SkitchP wrote: LoathedVermin72 wrote: I re-watched Episode III a few days ago, and it wasn't as laughably bad as I remembered. The dialogue and acting is still horrendous, and all the Three Stooges droid humor is unbearable, but there's some stuff to like. Some brief thoughts: I think the CG environments are actually quite impressive for the most part, and feel more visionary and immersive than anything in TFA. Unfortunately, a lot of the other CG effects (like actual characters) don't fare as well. Really impressive sound design. This is another area where the prequels excelled above TFA. Like they did in the OT, Lucas and co. managed to create a seemingly endless supply of singular sounds (the calls of that lizard-alien Obi-Wan rides, for example). Anakin's turn to the dark side is rushed and unconvincing, but again, I appreciate the attempt. I like that you see him kind of bounce back and forth between loyalty to Palpatine and the Jedi. The seduction scenes between him and Palpatine are compelling, even though they could have been better-executed. Palpatine's monologue at the bubble opera is the highlight. McDiarmid is great (until he turns into the Emperor, at which time he gets goofy). The action set-pieces are legitimately epic and impressive, and I would say that goes for all the prequels. These scenes are where the movies shine (which may be because they involve very little dialogue and acting). And I know I'm alone on this, but I appreciate all the political minutiae. It makes sense that we see more of that during the build-up to war (prequels) and not during the war (OT). It's by no means particularly well-executed, but I appreciate the effort. I kinda agree with most of this. i generally do as well, though i haven't seen the force awakens yet...i thought the cg environments were overkill and mostly distracting though outside of the anakin/padme interaction i liked attack of the clones more than i remembered too

Author:	stip [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:42 pm ]
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and if you're short on time:

Author:	bada [ Tue December 22, 2015 5:50 pm ]
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stip wrote: (although the martial arts saber fights have not aged well) Yeah I find the lightsaber duels much more satisfying in 4-7 as opposed to 1-3. Sword fights should be exhausting not effortless.

Author:	Strat [ Tue December 22, 2015 6:19 pm ]
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bada wrote: stip wrote: (although the martial arts saber fights have not aged well) Yeah I find the lightsaber duels much more satisfying in 4-7 as opposed to 1-3. Sword fights should be exhausting not effortless. Absolutely. There is no emotion in those saber duels for me.