How does this destroy the original trilogy?

Idea for a Star Wars themed Valentine's Day card:

Join me and together we'll rule the world as hot dog and bun.

Perfect.

Luke grew as a person and as a Jedi in the OT. Here he and the Jedi are broken. He acts foolishly and selfishly for most of the movie. Even when he helps, he doesn't even leave the island. The Jedi must end is the message we are getting. The strong ties of family and friendship are gone. We are left with death and failure, and the successful people are only those that are unconnected to the OT. Apart from possibly Leia, but of course the actress sadly passed away, so not much more can be done with her, and indeed her only child in the series, is the new leader of the evil opposition. What do we even have left from the OT? Nothing. This movie can not ruin the greatness of the OT, but it does nothing positive towards the OT in any way.

Hated rose And the whole code breaking sequence just didn't go anywhere.

And making Captain phasma pointless.

Outside of that I loved it.

Kylo is awesome loved him bitch slapping Hux in the end.

Sad to see the end of snoke. Luke was better than expected

Where do they go with chapter nine.

I'm Too Sexy is amazing if you replace every instance of "sexy" with "tummy."

I'm
Too tummy for my shirt
Too tummy for my shirt
So tummy it hurts

You OK, digm?

Not great I listened to dark side of the moon tonight

I'm too tummy for my car

Hot take from a thread tourist (hey dime )

I'll watch this again, but this felt like a ton of good ideas were introduced but then wrapped up hastily and weirdly. It was kind of a let down overall, but I did really like the theme that TLJ drilled into our head about the force. I don't care if that undoes the idea behind the OT. It makes for an interesting story and is a healthy pill to swallow in the larger context of religion, diversity and democratic values. If the force flows within everyone, then the symbols of Jedi history and culture can literally be burned to the ground while allowing the idea to mutate and live on in different ways.

The best thing Johnson did, I think, was make Rey's parentage "reveal" so ambiguous. Everything hinges on that question. If she's no one, then the force really is a democratic thing and the Jedi were deluded in their thinking that they had a monopoly on the light side. If Ben is lying to her and there is some sort of canon blood flowing through her veins, then perhaps this becomes yet another iteration of a Skywalker-like bloodline saga. I hope she really is no one and the OT idea of the Jedi Order is just a small part of a bigger thing.

It's a shame that the characters weren't really able to explore those implications more as TLJ rushed to the ending. There's more story to tell in IX and I hope it's done well, but after this one I left the theater asking myself how?

That being said, I'm very much in the "it's star wars!" camp. Lot of new planets, species and new details that I'm sure I'll fall in love with the more I watch it. Can't wait to read stupid shit on wookiepedia for the next few months. That has no bearing on my actual opinion of this weird movie. Rogue One is now undoubtedly my modern Star Wars bench mark.

Side note: I can't be the only one who was really, really hoping to see Ahsoka (or at least Chopper) on Crait.

Anybody could be strong with the force in any of the other Star Wars movies as well. It’s not a new idea. We don’t know the background of anyone apart from Luke and Leia. It’s not weird that Rey is strong with the force because her parents were poor and evil, it’s weird because of everything else that has happened in TFA and TLJ, and because of the context of the main plotline in this nine episode saga.

I don’t agree at all with the idea that people will like it just cos it’s got Star Wars on it. If that were true I’d love rogue one and Rian Johnson wouldnt be getting death threats off fans (Yep seriously.)
All I can say is the one thing I’m reading everywhere is people hating it first time but coming around to it in following viewings. In overwhelming numbers. That’s been my own experience of it too.

Hang out with a couple of time over Christmas. You’ll be glad you did.

My wishes aside I felt that kylo was lying to rey about her parents cos he can sense that’s her one sore spot and he wants to hit it. Well, Apparently at a Q and A post showing Rian Johnson heavily implied that Rey's 'nobody' heritage was indeed misdirection by Kylo Ren and is not entirely accurate.

After TFA I was hoping she was the daughter of Luke, but after TLJ, I have disregarded that idea. She did receive a message from Obi-Wan in TFA, and seemed to have an even stronger British accent in TLJ. So if she isn’t from evil and poor parents, some link to Obi-Wan seems possible. We’ve never heard about him having any family though.

han, luke, and leia suffered an unimaginable tragedy post OT - the functional death of a child - arguably caused by their actions (witj Luke and the jefi order acting as direct catalysts). of course thst tears you apart and can cause you to abandon your old life/regress. that’s what happens. but both han and luke, inspired by their interactions with newer characters in whom they see a spark of their old selves, cause within them a reawakening of their older, better selves. they die redeemed, each in service of the values they spent their lives serving. Han, the loner, in service of his family (for leia and their son). Luke, the jedi, to help preserve the rebellion and lay the seeds of a new order, restoring the jedi as a symbol of hope.

that is incredibly faithful to the characters without having them just repeat what is familiar

Luke now is exactly where he should be.

It is one thing to suffer loss and tragedy.

It’s a much more devastating thing to have been the cause of loss and tragedy.

And he’s sees it as all his fault in failing kylo and setting all the wheels in motion.

Getting his other students killed and further billions of people down the line.

He’s completely broke. After that and that’s where we find him in TLJ.

His sacrifice argued end is his own atenoement for that and pretty much his revenge on kylo.