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This movie is dogshit, but it doesn't deserve a fraction of the hate that Force Awakens does. Johnson didn't kill Star Wars. He just raped the corpse. Jar Jar Abrams killed Star Wars.
Wrong
Look I don't agree with your opinion that TLJ is a bigger pile of garbage and deserves more hate than TFA, but I respect it.
Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 10:13 pm
what on earth am I talking about
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Anders wrote:
Luke and Leia reuniting is good.
All I wanted in this film. And man does it deliver. I cry every time. Which is probably why this isn’t as rewatchable for me as tfa or any others.
Probably the most gut wrenching heartbreaking scene in all Star Wars
And the way it mirrors in reverse their conversation in ROTJ is just sublime.
Luke telling Leia he has to go save Vader. There’s still good in him. And she begs him to flee Luke telling Leia he can’t save Ben. And she accepts it and knows her son is gone
The trilogy would be better if JJ made all three, but there are aspects of TLJ that will live on in glory and in history. I do wonder to what degree JJ and Rian worked together, and my feeling, is not a lot. But I love how JJ took the best parts of this, and made TROS better because of it.
TLJ has a really solid movie inside it, but I still feel like its weak parts are holding it down.
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Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 10:22 pm
Mind Your Tanners
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Anders wrote:
There is something off for me about Luke not physically being on Crait, but Kylo not seeing or sensing it.
The dialogue and acting is off the charts between Driver and Hamill though.
It keeps true to Star Wars flaws though
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From the moment you realised that Darth Vader – a man with "The Force" coursing through his veins like milk through a cow's teat, apparently – still couldn't recognise that the woman standing in front of him was his own daughter, then you knew, deep down, that Star Wars was rubbish.
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There is something off for me about Luke not physically being on Crait, but Kylo not seeing or sensing it.
The dialogue and acting is off the charts between Driver and Hamill though.
It keeps true to Star Wars flaws though
Quote:
From the moment you realised that Darth Vader – a man with "The Force" coursing through his veins like milk through a cow's teat, apparently – still couldn't recognise that the woman standing in front of him was his own daughter, then you knew, deep down, that Star Wars was rubbish.
The trilogy would be better if JJ made all three, but there are aspects of TLJ that will live on in glory and in history. I do wonder to what degree JJ and Rian worked together, and my feeling, is not a lot. But I love how JJ took the best parts of this, and made TROS better because of it.
TLJ has a really solid movie inside it, but I still feel like its weak parts are holding it down.
It probably would have killed Abrams. I can't imagine the burden these films place on their directors.
The trilogy would be better if JJ made all three, but there are aspects of TLJ that will live on in glory and in history. I do wonder to what degree JJ and Rian worked together, and my feeling, is not a lot. But I love how JJ took the best parts of this, and made TROS better because of it.
TLJ has a really solid movie inside it, but I still feel like its weak parts are holding it down.
It probably would have killed Abrams. I can't imagine the burden these films place on their directors.
Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 10:40 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:03 pm Posts: 9359 Location: Washington State
Anders wrote:
There is something off for me about Luke not physically being on Crait, but Kylo not seeing or sensing it.
The dialogue and acting is off the charts between Driver and Hamill though.
you mean like how Leia was standing in front of Darth Vader but he didn't know she was his daughter? Sometimes shit's just made up man.
Rangi Guy wrote:
Anders wrote:
There is something off for me about Luke not physically being on Crait, but Kylo not seeing or sensing it.
The dialogue and acting is off the charts between Driver and Hamill though.
It keeps true to Star Wars flaws though
Quote:
From the moment you realised that Darth Vader – a man with "The Force" coursing through his veins like milk through a cow's teat, apparently – still couldn't recognise that the woman standing in front of him was his own daughter, then you knew, deep down, that Star Wars was rubbish.
There is something off for me about Luke not physically being on Crait, but Kylo not seeing or sensing it.
The dialogue and acting is off the charts between Driver and Hamill though.
you mean like how Leia was standing in front of Darth Vader but he didn't know she was his daughter? Sometimes shit's just made up man.
She wasn't force aware at that point and never had training. Is it possible for someone to be completely unaware of their own force nature, and therefore not be 'force visible' to another user of the force?
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Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 11:23 pm
Mind Your Tanners
Joined: Tue January 01, 2013 6:03 pm Posts: 9359 Location: Washington State
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
bune wrote:
Anders wrote:
There is something off for me about Luke not physically being on Crait, but Kylo not seeing or sensing it.
The dialogue and acting is off the charts between Driver and Hamill though.
you mean like how Leia was standing in front of Darth Vader but he didn't know she was his daughter? Sometimes shit's just made up man.
She wasn't force aware at that point and never had training. Is it possible for someone to be completely unaware of their own force nature, and therefore not be 'force visible' to another user of the force?
Possibly? I mean, they only tested Anakin after watching him race right?
Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 11:29 pm
what on earth am I talking about
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am Posts: 35438
Anders wrote:
Monkey_Driven wrote:
Anders wrote:
The end.
The trilogy would be better if JJ made all three, but there are aspects of TLJ that will live on in glory and in history. I do wonder to what degree JJ and Rian worked together, and my feeling, is not a lot. But I love how JJ took the best parts of this, and made TROS better because of it.
TLJ has a really solid movie inside it, but I still feel like its weak parts are holding it down.
It probably would have killed Abrams. I can't imagine the burden these films place on their directors.
Tough job. No doubt about that.
The very reason directors of colour and women directors won’t go near it. Ultra abusive backlash. Not something they want to deal with. Not a good look when trying to get hired by a studio for anything else
Post subject: Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Posted: Thu December 19, 2019 11:30 pm
what on earth am I talking about
Joined: Wed January 02, 2013 12:35 am Posts: 35438
Sgt. Crackpot wrote:
bune wrote:
Anders wrote:
There is something off for me about Luke not physically being on Crait, but Kylo not seeing or sensing it.
The dialogue and acting is off the charts between Driver and Hamill though.
you mean like how Leia was standing in front of Darth Vader but he didn't know she was his daughter? Sometimes shit's just made up man.
She wasn't force aware at that point and never had training. Is it possible for someone to be completely unaware of their own force nature, and therefore not be 'force visible' to another user of the force?
You clearly haven’t seen rise of skywalker or the Mandalorian.
There is something off for me about Luke not physically being on Crait, but Kylo not seeing or sensing it.
The dialogue and acting is off the charts between Driver and Hamill though.
you mean like how Leia was standing in front of Darth Vader but he didn't know she was his daughter? Sometimes shit's just made up man.
She wasn't force aware at that point and never had training. Is it possible for someone to be completely unaware of their own force nature, and therefore not be 'force visible' to another user of the force?
You clearly haven’t seen rise of skywalker or the Mandalorian.
I’ll say no more
Have seen both, Dime. Are you drunk?
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