Wed January 11, 2017 12:30 pm
Wed January 11, 2017 4:25 pm
Wed January 11, 2017 4:49 pm
dimejinky99 wrote:My pal who has neve seen Star Wars,any of them, saw it last night and he thought it good overall but it's not a standalone. He said it depends totally on you knowing the universe and at least the near background of the story and it doesn't work at all as a standalone rather it's a total vehicle to what is to follow and fails to stand on its own merits apart from being an exposition heavy trudge to an amazing final sequence. He felt it unbalanced and overall meh and he's not encouraged to watch the OT as a result.
Wed January 11, 2017 5:00 pm
Wed January 11, 2017 5:00 pm
Monkey_Driven wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:My pal who has neve seen Star Wars,any of them, saw it last night and he thought it good overall but it's not a standalone. He said it depends totally on you knowing the universe and at least the near background of the story and it doesn't work at all as a standalone rather it's a total vehicle to what is to follow and fails to stand on its own merits apart from being an exposition heavy trudge to an amazing final sequence. He felt it unbalanced and overall meh and he's not encouraged to watch the OT as a result.
I don't trust anyone who has never seen a Star Wars film.
Wed January 11, 2017 5:04 pm
@SkitchP wrote:Monkey_Driven wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:My pal who has neve seen Star Wars,any of them, saw it last night and he thought it good overall but it's not a standalone. He said it depends totally on you knowing the universe and at least the near background of the story and it doesn't work at all as a standalone rather it's a total vehicle to what is to follow and fails to stand on its own merits apart from being an exposition heavy trudge to an amazing final sequence. He felt it unbalanced and overall meh and he's not encouraged to watch the OT as a result.
I don't trust anyone who has never seen a Star Wars film.
Yeah, and it's not like anyone has REALLY tried to sell these as true standalone films.
Wed January 11, 2017 5:49 pm
dimejinky99 wrote:My pal who has neve seen Star Wars,any of them, saw it last night and he thought it good overall but it's not a standalone. He said it depends totally on you knowing the universe and at least the near background of the story and it doesn't work at all as a standalone rather it's a total vehicle to what is to follow and fails to stand on its own merits apart from being an exposition heavy trudge to an amazing final sequence.
Wed January 11, 2017 6:01 pm
wease wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:My pal who has neve seen Star Wars,any of them, saw it last night and he thought it good overall but it's not a standalone. He said it depends totally on you knowing the universe and at least the near background of the story and it doesn't work at all as a standalone rather it's a total vehicle to what is to follow and fails to stand on its own merits apart from being an exposition heavy trudge to an amazing final sequence.
He's not really wrong on this point.
Wed January 11, 2017 6:02 pm
Wed January 11, 2017 6:07 pm
LoathedVermin72 wrote:Yeah, who needs all that character development and visual interest
Wed January 11, 2017 6:39 pm
Wed January 11, 2017 6:45 pm
dimejinky99 wrote:Well jokes aside the only comeback I had was that there were some lovely shots that were new to Star Wars and we finally go to see Vader be a killing machine.
Even typing that points how weak a defence this film has to that kind of criticism.
All we learned is to get the most of out of these films you have to know about that universe at least a little .
Lesson for Disney I guess is they have to make them even more accessible to those not interested past a casual awareness of Star Wars. Which is the majority of people.
Which would be shitty for future films quality perhaps
Wed January 11, 2017 7:26 pm
E.H. Ruddock wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Well jokes aside the only comeback I had was that there were some lovely shots that were new to Star Wars and we finally go to see Vader be a killing machine.
Even typing that points how weak a defence this film has to that kind of criticism.
All we learned is to get the most of out of these films you have to know about that universe at least a little .
Lesson for Disney I guess is they have to make them even more accessible to those not interested past a casual awareness of Star Wars. Which is the majority of people.
Which would be shitty for future films quality perhaps
The film did a billion dollars. I think they'll be fine if they keep doing movies that require knowledge of the SW universe.
Wed January 11, 2017 7:30 pm
Wed January 11, 2017 7:33 pm
E.H. Ruddock wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Well jokes aside the only comeback I had was that there were some lovely shots that were new to Star Wars and we finally go to see Vader be a killing machine.
Even typing that points how weak a defence this film has to that kind of criticism.
All we learned is to get the most of out of these films you have to know about that universe at least a little .
Lesson for Disney I guess is they have to make them even more accessible to those not interested past a casual awareness of Star Wars. Which is the majority of people.
Which would be shitty for future films quality perhaps
The film did a billion dollars. I think they'll be fine if they keep doing movies that require knowledge of the SW universe.
Wed January 11, 2017 7:35 pm
dimejinky99 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Well jokes aside the only comeback I had was that there were some lovely shots that were new to Star Wars and we finally go to see Vader be a killing machine.
Even typing that points how weak a defence this film has to that kind of criticism.
All we learned is to get the most of out of these films you have to know about that universe at least a little .
Lesson for Disney I guess is they have to make them even more accessible to those not interested past a casual awareness of Star Wars. Which is the majority of people.
Which would be shitty for future films quality perhaps
The film did a billion dollars. I think they'll be fine if they keep doing movies that require knowledge of the SW universe.
Has it made a billion?
News to me
Wed January 11, 2017 7:44 pm
dimejinky99 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Well jokes aside the only comeback I had was that there were some lovely shots that were new to Star Wars and we finally go to see Vader be a killing machine.
Even typing that points how weak a defence this film has to that kind of criticism.
All we learned is to get the most of out of these films you have to know about that universe at least a little .
Lesson for Disney I guess is they have to make them even more accessible to those not interested past a casual awareness of Star Wars. Which is the majority of people.
Which would be shitty for future films quality perhaps
The film did a billion dollars. I think they'll be fine if they keep doing movies that require knowledge of the SW universe.
Has it made a billion?
News to me
Wed January 11, 2017 7:45 pm
E.H. Ruddock wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:E.H. Ruddock wrote:dimejinky99 wrote:Well jokes aside the only comeback I had was that there were some lovely shots that were new to Star Wars and we finally go to see Vader be a killing machine.
Even typing that points how weak a defence this film has to that kind of criticism.
All we learned is to get the most of out of these films you have to know about that universe at least a little .
Lesson for Disney I guess is they have to make them even more accessible to those not interested past a casual awareness of Star Wars. Which is the majority of people.
Which would be shitty for future films quality perhaps
The film did a billion dollars. I think they'll be fine if they keep doing movies that require knowledge of the SW universe.
Has it made a billion?
News to me
Ok, dime, you got me. 900,000,000. Sorry. You are right, they should probably change their approach now.
Wed January 11, 2017 7:51 pm
Wed January 11, 2017 7:53 pm
dimejinky99 wrote:Calm down kids. It's a stressful time forcall of us.
How about a Star Wars nights series where Chopper is a serial killer droid and swears constantly