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So what did you think (DcT edition)?
Best of all the films 10%  10%  [ 9 ]
Better than A New Hope, Empire, the prequels, But not Jedi 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Better than A New Hope, Jedi, the prequels, but not Empire 8%  8%  [ 7 ]
Better than Empire, Jedi, the Prequels, but not A New Hope 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Better than A New Hope and the prequels, but not Empire or Jedi 3%  3%  [ 3 ]
Better than Empire and the prequels, but not A New Hope or Jedi 1%  1%  [ 1 ]
Better than Jedi and the prequels, but not a New Hope or Empire 25%  25%  [ 22 ]
As good as Empire, Jedi, and A New Hope, and better than the prequels 16%  16%  [ 14 ]
Better than the prequels, but not the originals 16%  16%  [ 14 ]
As good as some of the prequels 8%  8%  [ 7 ]
As good as all of the prequels 2%  2%  [ 2 ]
Worse than the prequels 5%  5%  [ 4 ]
Total votes : 87
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yeah, the movie has a lot of weird choices. The pace is also a mess.

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I never thought about the hugging scene at all, but I agree it is weird the she hugs Rey first when you point it out. However, it bothered me on the very first viewing that we didn't get to see Poe leave Jakku. Weird choice.

Yea this is really one of my only complaints. He escapes the first order, ends up on jakku and then what?

Poor choice. Should have utilized a few scenes of him getting off the planet with a why and how in order to flesh his character out. Even if only a little bit.


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I never thought about the hugging scene at all, but I agree it is weird the she hugs Rey first when you point it out. However, it bothered me on the very first viewing that we didn't get to see Poe leave Jakku. Weird choice.


He was originally meant to die at that point I believe.


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One could say he did, specially with his role in TLJ.

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One could say he did, specially with his role in TLJ.

Reading "resistence reborn" and it is dealing a lot with Poe's emotional struggles after the mistakes he made in TLJ. I fucking love it. Really drives the points home that were made in TLJ. One statement he comes to terms with was something along the lines of "I led a coup against my own side and now they're all dead"

Hell yea. His role wasn't reduced in the last jedi. It was fantastic.


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Anders wrote:
I never thought about the hugging scene at all, but I agree it is weird the she hugs Rey first when you point it out. However, it bothered me on the very first viewing that we didn't get to see Poe leave Jakku. Weird choice.

I also agree with this. But I think it has to do with rewrites during production. Poe died in the script. Isaac convinced JJ to let Poe live.


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** it’s funny we take it on word that kylo is this big powerful bad guy.

Didn’t see his Fucking training montage or even any of his skills. He arrives prepackaged.

But no questions asked. Grand. He’s the baddie.

Which would have been fine if Rey had shown up like that too, and we were given some backstory about her spending years of training - like we did with Kylo. Problem is - we see Rey struggling to survive and having no super powers - then suddenly she does. I get that the director meant for that, but his handling was sloppy


She struggles to survive due to her circumstances, but she handles that struggle well. I found her quite crafty at the start, I even thought she was a sand person.

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Strat wrote:
Anders wrote:
I never thought about the hugging scene at all, but I agree it is weird the she hugs Rey first when you point it out. However, it bothered me on the very first viewing that we didn't get to see Poe leave Jakku. Weird choice.

Yea this is really one of my only complaints. He escapes the first order, ends up on jakku and then what?

Poor choice. Should have utilized a few scenes of him getting off the planet with a why and how in order to flesh his character out. Even if only a little bit.


That was the one flaw of the film for me, he was handled terribly. The first time you see him after he "dies", he's unrecognisable as he's wearing a helmet! I thought that pilot was a different character until after I saw TLJ!

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Watched this again last night. The first 30-45 minutes is one of the best stretches in the entire saga. The last half is kind of a mess.


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The first 20 look so good. And the sequence with the First Order arriving for Poe is awesome.

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The first 20 look so good. And the sequence with the First Order arriving for Poe is awesome.


The introduction to Rey is perfect.


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Monkey_Driven wrote:
Watched this again last night. The first 30-45 minutes is one of the best stretches in the entire saga. The last half is kind of a mess.



Couldn’t agree more.

Taking it slow soft Rey intro also echoing ANHs early part but in th best way.


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MD asked in the TROS thread, if it made me like TLJ better, and that’s something I have to think about. But I do think I’ve gotten a stronger appreciation for TFA. Once you have the whole story, this movie feels just right.


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Anders wrote:
MD asked in the TROS thread, if it made me like TLJ better, and that’s something I have to think about. But I do think I’ve gotten a stronger appreciation for TFA. Once you have the whole story, this movie feels just right.


That is encouraging.


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Monkey_Driven wrote:
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MD asked in the TROS thread, if it made me like TLJ better, and that’s something I have to think about. But I do think I’ve gotten a stronger appreciation for TFA. Once you have the whole story, this movie feels just right.


That is encouraging.



He’s totally right. This elevated both tfa and tlj in whole new ways I never imagined


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dimejinky99 wrote:
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MD asked in the TROS thread, if it made me like TLJ better, and that’s something I have to think about. But I do think I’ve gotten a stronger appreciation for TFA. Once you have the whole story, this movie feels just right.


That is encouraging.



He’s totally right. This elevated both tfa and tlj in whole new ways I never imagined


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I feel like TROS is much more in sync with TFA, but TLJ clearly develops the Kylo/Rey special connection through the force, which is vital in TROS.


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I think this movie is the easiest movie to watch out of of the Disney-era of Star Wars. Very entertaining and fun.


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Easily the most rewatchable


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Just finished rewatching this to get the bad taste of Rise out of my mouth. This is light years better than Rise in every way...and it’s a retread of A New Hope.


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