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If anything, the Force Awakens makes me appreciate the ending of Return of the Jedi more. It's like the party when Obama got elected. Everyone was celebrating the victory, but the real work and difficulties were ahead.
Yup
And, as you mentioned Stip, it mirrors real politics and history when a major regime change occurs.
Post subject: Re: STAR WARS SPOILER THREAD. SPOILERS WITHIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Tue December 22, 2015 4:41 pm
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stip wrote:
darth_vedder wrote:
McParadigm wrote:
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6) Han going back to being a smuggler. So his son turns evil, he and Leia separate, and he just goes back to smuggling? Seems beneath him, considering he was a general. Why not just take another position in the New Republic away from Leia?
One of the biggest reasons I'm repelled by the thought of this movie is that they felt they had to undo ALL of the victories from the original trilogy.
They beat the Empire! No they really didn't.
Luke faced the ultimate temptation, and is now a true Jedi who will bring light and hope to the galaxy. No he failed and skipped town, leaving everyone to their own, but he left a fucking treasure map because lol.
Han Solo grew as a person, found his conscience, and fell in love. Nah being a dad was hard and shit so he literally rejected all of it and went back to pirating.
It's like the fear of having to come up with new ideas was so great, that they had to dismantle the ending of a great story arc. The Han Solo story is now "he was a bit of a scumbag then was nice for a while then a scumbag again and then died." No thanks. I am perfectly content with keeping it at "they blew up the empire and lived happily ever after," for those characters.
That's kinda what I'm feeling too. The more I think about this movie, the move I kinda wish I didn't see it. I was fine with the happy ending of ROTJ. I don't think I needed to see this story. Eh, I don't know, lots of mixed emotions with this flick. While it was enjoyable, it just didn't seem necessary, and yeah, it un-did all the effort that led up to the ROTJ ending. Maybe I didn't like this film. Can that be? Can I actually side with LV on this? NO!!!!!!!!!!!
If you don't want the return of the jedi story to continue then it makes sense you'll have issues with this next chapter. It does undo the happy ending.
I'm mixed. I figured there would be remnants of the Empire n'all. I figured that creating a "New Republic" would be a challenge, but it seems like the "Resistance" should be "The First Order". It's the First Order who is resisting the New Republic, no? No pun intended, I didn't want a "Disney" happy ever after movie necessarily, I just don't know what I think about all the unanswered questions, and the story of where things went after ROTJ.
Like Ruddo joked about... I think we need a Prequel to the Sequel to clear this shit up. Or it best be revealed in 8 and 9.
To be clear though, I did not hate this movie, but I didn't love it either, and I certainly enjoyed it more than the prequels.
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