I am now convinced that people will defend every single scene and choice made in TLJ, no matter what.

There was a lot about the movie that I thought was super weird and even completely stupid.

Of course, as it should be with a Star Wars movie, at least since ROTJ came out.

It's almost like people had subjectively different experiences watching the movie.

I was just saying that I'm not here to defend every single scene and choice, no matter what, as you posited. That isn't true.

I agree with you.

NO I AGREE WITH YOU GODDAMNIT

You guys should have a pillow fight.

I’d say LV is simply over the moon this thread is at the top of his feed again

What do you think I've been laying the ground work for this whole time?

Oh i not mad. Im just thinking Rian did a lot of things to mess with them. Im no SW fanboi, i just watch the movies , no series or comic books...but im pointing out that that phrase and the comic stuff at the beginning were choices from Rian to mess with the fans, as the parodic tone of the first scenes.

TLJ called back to the lighter elements of the OT frequently, but it never came off as a parody to me.

More like the PT in humor, more over the top than the OT.

Definitely. That opening “Can he hear me?” stuff was almost out of Spaceballs. Intentionally deflating menace and seriousness is an odd choice.

That opening and Luke throwing the lightsaber were direct from Spaceballs. Its almost as if Rian was saying, guys...these movies are too much.

But it served both a tactical and character purpose. And the scene still maintained plenty of menace. So it worked and gave us something fairly fresh and unexpected. I thought it was a nice move. *shrugs*

I have to agree with Verm here. That scene was dragged out too much. Maybe a short troll would have been OK.

But taking it that far just felt like a parody film where they take a joke and drive it to death, ala Spaceballs, Naked Gun, etc.

I need to see it again but I thought there was a reason whay it went on so long. Poe was intentionally stalling. Pretty sure this is addressed in the film. Or I'm remembering it wrong. But either way it worked for me.