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 Post subject: Re: #HaydeninIX #BringBackAnakin
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Guys, its hinted in TFA that Anakin did appeared to Kylo.

From a certain point of view, sure. It can certainly be interpreted that way.


Being that jj is back, i guess he will give us more from that.

If that's what he intended in the first place, I'm sure he will. But it's pretty open to interpretation.


What do you want to see? Anakin being the puppetmaster for Kylo? Something else? Anakin being divided in two force ghosts?

I've said before, I want to see something like Force Ghost Luke bringing in Force Ghost Anakin to talk to Kylo as a last resort to turning him from total destruction and the Dark Side.

It would be great to see Luke "haunt" Kylo through the movie but see him fail to turn Kylo on his own. So Luke goes to Anakin and convinces him to try one last time because he might be the only one Kylo will listen to.

Just one scene with Anakin as a Force Ghost. That's it.


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 Post subject: Re: #HaydeninIX #BringBackAnakin
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And what do you want from Kylo´s arc? To survive? to end like a hero like Anakin? To go full sith?

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I definitely don't want Kylo to be redeemed.

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 Post subject: Re: #HaydeninIX #BringBackAnakin
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And what do you want from Kylo´s arc? To survive? to end like a hero like Anakin? To go full sith?

I think I'd personally like to see Kylo go full-on super evil bad guy and be defeated.

But I'm not opposed to a kind of redemption arc for him. It'll depend on how it's told. I want to see more of his struggle to refuse the light. I think that's far more interesting.

Something where the Light is calling to him and pulling him but rather than go that way, he chooses to keep resisting and keep digging into the Dark even though that's not his destiny, or perhaps the desire of the Force. That would be fucking cool as shit, to me.


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He fucking killed Han Solo. You don’t get to be redeemed after that shit.


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 Post subject: Re: #HaydeninIX #BringBackAnakin
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Would you consider Anakin to be redeemed? Because he killed obi wan

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durdencommatyler wrote:
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Guys, its hinted in TFA that Anakin did appeared to Kylo.

From a certain point of view, sure. It can certainly be interpreted that way.


Being that jj is back, i guess he will give us more from that.

If that's what he intended in the first place, I'm sure he will. But it's pretty open to interpretation.


What do you want to see? Anakin being the puppetmaster for Kylo? Something else? Anakin being divided in two force ghosts?

I've said before, I want to see something like Force Ghost Luke bringing in Force Ghost Anakin to talk to Kylo as a last resort to turning him from total destruction and the Dark Side.

It would be great to see Luke "haunt" Kylo through the movie but see him fail to turn Kylo on his own. So Luke goes to Anakin and convinces him to try one last time because he might be the only one Kylo will listen to.

Just one scene with Anakin as a Force Ghost. That's it.


I could not be more against this plan.


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 Post subject: Re: #HaydeninIX #BringBackAnakin
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Would you consider Anakin to be redeemed? Because he killed obi wan

I guess I have to. It’s already been established. I don’t like the idea of one act in a 25-year history of being the second most evil badass in the galaxy negating that 25-year history. One good deed shouldn’t erase the thousands of bad ones.


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 Post subject: Re: #HaydeninIX #BringBackAnakin
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Would you consider Anakin to be redeemed? Because he killed obi wan

He killed a shit ton of people. He fucking murdered a bunch of kids, man. If Anakin can get redemption, so can Kylo.


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 Post subject: Re: #HaydeninIX #BringBackAnakin
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durdencommatyler wrote:
VinylGuy wrote:
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Guys, its hinted in TFA that Anakin did appeared to Kylo.

From a certain point of view, sure. It can certainly be interpreted that way.


Being that jj is back, i guess he will give us more from that.

If that's what he intended in the first place, I'm sure he will. But it's pretty open to interpretation.


What do you want to see? Anakin being the puppetmaster for Kylo? Something else? Anakin being divided in two force ghosts?

I've said before, I want to see something like Force Ghost Luke bringing in Force Ghost Anakin to talk to Kylo as a last resort to turning him from total destruction and the Dark Side.

It would be great to see Luke "haunt" Kylo through the movie but see him fail to turn Kylo on his own. So Luke goes to Anakin and convinces him to try one last time because he might be the only one Kylo will listen to.

Just one scene with Anakin as a Force Ghost. That's it.


I could not be more against this plan.

Why?


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 Post subject: Re: #HaydeninIX #BringBackAnakin
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Family and redemption are two of the main themes throughout all Star Wars.
Han redeems himself coming back to save the day in a new hope
Obi wan redeems himself training luke to make amends for his failure with Vader
As does Yoda.
Lando redeems himself and helps save han from Jabba.
Anakin redeems himself for realising he loves his son and kills the emperor.
Luke redeems himself by saving the resistance against the first order.
Gonna bet Leia redeems kylo in 9. She already has in part by him not firing on her in TLJ


I’m so bored talking about it tbh

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 Post subject: Re: #HaydeninIX #BringBackAnakin
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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
Would you consider Anakin to be redeemed? Because he killed obi wan



Vader didnt kill Obi wan though. He robbed him of that by saving luke and Leia and han and becoming one with the force. He distracted Vader and sacrificed himself so they could survive.

Oh look. That’s exactly what luke did at the end of TFA.

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I want Kylo to go full sith. Like really fucked up sith. Worse than the emperor or Snoke.

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I mean, it's inevitable that they are gonna have the happy Disney ending in this, have fucking force ghosts all over the place jerking each other off, and probably kylo and rey having a force baby.

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 Post subject: Re: #HaydeninIX #BringBackAnakin
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If Vader deserves a force ghost for not being an asshole for two seconds at the end of his life, I say everyone deserves a force ghost.

Force ghost equality now!

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 Post subject: Re: #HaydeninIX #BringBackAnakin
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VinylGuy wrote:
I want Kylo to go full sith. Like really fucked up sith. Worse than the emperor or Snoke.



Neither Snoke or kylo are Sith. They’ve established that. Snoke has or has had other apprentices.

It hasn’t been revealed why or to what end yet though.

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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
I mean, it's inevitable that they are gonna have the happy Disney ending in this, have fucking force ghosts all over the place jerking each other off, and probably kylo and rey having a force baby.

But Return of the Jedi didn't have a happy ending. Right.


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E.H. Ruddock wrote:
I mean, it's inevitable that they are gonna have the happy Disney ending in this, have fucking force ghosts all over the place jerking each other off, and probably kylo and rey having a force baby.

But Return of the Jedi didn't have a happy ending. Right.


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I want Kylo to go full sith. Like really fucked up sith. Worse than the emperor or Snoke.



Neither Snoke or kylo are Sith. They’ve established that. Snoke has or has had other apprentices.

It hasn’t been revealed why or to what end yet though.


Snoke is not a sith? I know Kylo isn’t that why I want him to go full sith

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durdencommatyler wrote:
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VinylGuy wrote:
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Guys, its hinted in TFA that Anakin did appeared to Kylo.

From a certain point of view, sure. It can certainly be interpreted that way.


Being that jj is back, i guess he will give us more from that.

If that's what he intended in the first place, I'm sure he will. But it's pretty open to interpretation.


What do you want to see? Anakin being the puppetmaster for Kylo? Something else? Anakin being divided in two force ghosts?

I've said before, I want to see something like Force Ghost Luke bringing in Force Ghost Anakin to talk to Kylo as a last resort to turning him from total destruction and the Dark Side.

It would be great to see Luke "haunt" Kylo through the movie but see him fail to turn Kylo on his own. So Luke goes to Anakin and convinces him to try one last time because he might be the only one Kylo will listen to.

Just one scene with Anakin as a Force Ghost. That's it.


I could not be more against this plan.

Why?

I just think it’s wrong to have Christensen as the Force Ghost for one thing. I think it was a terrible idea at the time and I still do. It worked better as the broken old man/machine being “normal” in the Force than it did to de-age him 30 years. If he gets younger again, then Obi-Wan should have, as well. And don’t give me the bullshit cop out that he went back to when he was good. He was good at the very end of his life so that’s the last time he was good.

Having said that, I, in no way, shape or form want to see him reprise his role as Anakin as a Force Ghost.


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